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Dev jobs are about to get a hard reset and nobody's ready

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Re: Dev jobs are about to get a hard reset and nobody's ready

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The first comment to the post referenced Kent Beck's: > "The value of 90% of my skills just dropped to $0. The leverage for the remaining 10% went up 1000x. I need to recalibrate" [0] At the time that felt like an exaggeration, but from my own use of Claude Code over the last month, I now entirely agree. My take on this is that we need to educate future devs from the very start as engineering managers - to be concern…

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Re: Dev jobs are about to get a hard reset and nobody's ready

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While everyeone is just unilaterally asserting things, I'll jump in: no they won't. Practically every output of LLMs I've seen (even the "cutting edge" agentic ones that everyone says you have to evaluate or else your opinion don't count) has been poor quality with baffling bugs. These things do actually matter. Especially for anything that can be remotely described as "niche" or "research" they are astonishingly bad - maybe they're great for Go microservices or webdev, but there's a huge gap from there to "the entire software developer industry is doomed". Just calm down, man. You don't have to either breathlessly praise AI or start doomsaying, or say they're flat worthless, but a bit of humility over how uncertain the future may turn out is a noble trait to have.

Re: Dev jobs are about to get a hard reset and nobody's ready

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Good luck trying to debug the code you've generated without knowing anything about what it does.

Is this really any different from debugging code that has been built by hundreds of people over 10s of years and you're just the latest schmuck working on it?

Re: Dev jobs are about to get a hard reset and nobody's ready

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While everyeone is just unilaterally asserting things, I'll jump in: no they won't. Practically every output of LLMs I've seen (even the "cutting edge" agentic ones that everyone says you have to evaluate or else your opinion don't count) has been poor quality with baffling bugs. These things do actually matter. Especially for anything that can be remotely described as "niche" or "research" they are astonishingly bad…

AI is like an intern with a LOC quota to hit.

These tools love to just write new code, they hate refactoring or maintaining code which is what this job actually is.

Re: Dev jobs are about to get a hard reset and nobody's ready

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Yeah maybe. Talk is cheap, show me the code.

> Last week, I did something I’ve put off for 10 years. Built a full production-grade desktop app in 1 week. Fully reviewed. Clean code. Launched builds on Launchpad. UI/UX and performance? Better than most market leaders. ONE. WEEK.

I really wonder why people who write these things never actually show these apps they vibe coded in a week that are “better than most market leaders”.

> We’ve hit the point where asking “Which programming language should I learn?” is almost irrelevant. The real skill now is system design, architecture, DevOps, cloud — the stuff that separated juniors from seniors. That’s what’ll matter.

My UML professor said very similar things 25 years ago. You’d just draw a UML diagram, and boom! All the code would be generated. The only thing I remember from this class is how terrible she was at coding.

Re: Dev jobs are about to get a hard reset and nobody's ready

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It’s only a feeling, but I’d swear I’ve seen variations on this post across a half a dozen software-adjacent subreddits every day for the last month. The common denominator has always been “Paying $200 for Claude Max is a steal” with absolutely no evidence of what the author did with it. I honestly think we’re being played.

Watch: it's just Dario Amodei's marketing reddit account.

Re: Dev jobs are about to get a hard reset and nobody's ready

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It’s only a feeling, but I’d swear I’ve seen variations on this post across a half a dozen software-adjacent subreddits every day for the last month. The common denominator has always been “Paying $200 for Claude Max is a steal” with absolutely no evidence of what the author did with it. I honestly think we’re being played.

Yeah, I was about to say, it sounds a lot like this guy is just riding an intense high from getting Claude to build some side-project he's been putting off, which I feel is like 90% of all cases where someone writes a post like this.

But then I never really hear any update on whether the high is still there or if it's tapered off and now they're hitting reality.

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