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Re: Windows 10 EOL

#11
I guess I'm going to have to put in effort to tame W11 into submission the way I did 10, but I'm not looking forward it - I honestly rarely have a need for it these days.

Re: Windows 10 EOL

#12
Very frustrated with Windows in general. I just discovered they are throttling my computer with Efficiency Mode on processes like Brave, Bruno, Cursor, etc.

It's like that Auto Shutoff they added to cars. Helps no one, and nobody wanted it. (Thanks Obama https://www.newsweek.com/automatic-start-stop-technology-new...)

I would be on Linux today if Steam OS came out properly for desktop. I'm ready to dip.

Re: Windows 10 EOL

#13
post #2

Why do people keep bringing up this e-waste argument and act like they have to throw their Windows 10 computers into the garbage? It's not like the operating system stops working the second official support ends.

Yeah and in this case the author even admits that he could have upgraded his PC to Windows 11 but he bought a new one anyway! I suspect he doesn't really care that much about e-waste.

Re: Windows 10 EOL

#14
post #2

Why do people keep bringing up this e-waste argument and act like they have to throw their Windows 10 computers into the garbage? It's not like the operating system stops working the second official support ends.

I also agree that the machine doesn't go off on a puff of smoke the second the OS is no longer supported, but having an Internet connected device with an unsupported OS is not tenable. There are options, like of course running Linux instead for as long as distros support your hardware, but even then you're only buying time. At some point the avalanche of "progress" will cause software to rely on things your hardware can't do. That is a shame, because I don't really need anything from post-2000 hardware beyond pure speed increases. I have a fully functional and up to date T460 that I enjoy using, as long as you're not compiling anything big on it, running more than a handful of applications or doing anything while YouTube is playing.

Re: Windows 10 EOL

#15

>Instead, they made some arbitrary reason to deprecate "old" hardware The criteria was based on hardware mitigation support for Meltdown and Spectre patches. Because at the time those vulnerabilities could be exploited by executing malicious javascript in a browser to steal passwords

Yeah, and I could be hit by a meteor the next time I step outside, or something that fell off a passing Boeing. The odds are about the same.

The theoretical security people have gone off the deep end. The idiots in charge of browsers have decided the entire internet should break every 47 days in case someone might get a private key to a certificate, even though that's basically never been the source of a security compromise ever.

Meanwhile, advertising on the Edge start page and the top of Chrome search is the number one source of practical, working malware attacks. But those things make the browser companies money.

I no longer think big tech security people are serious.

Re: Windows 10 EOL

#17
Will professional hardware sellers still be allowed to sell valid W10 licenses with computers or not? Because in the "refurb" space, there are a whole lot of computers that cannot run W11 due to graphic card requirements.

Re: Windows 10 EOL

#18

I guess I'm going to have to put in effort to tame W11 into submission the way I did 10, but I'm not looking forward it - I honestly rarely have a need for it these days.

Most things can be registry edited back into reasonable form including the new right click menus.

The task/start bar is unfortunately not size adjustable anymore and requires third party replacement if you want that back.

It can be molded back into a reasonable Windows experience, but I imagine future updates will break every change I make at least once.

Re: Windows 10 EOL

#19
post #2

Why do people keep bringing up this e-waste argument and act like they have to throw their Windows 10 computers into the garbage? It's not like the operating system stops working the second official support ends.

Sure, there is nothing wrong with that if you either:

1. Disconnect that computer from the internet.

2. Are happy to have your computer infected and join a botnet.

Re: Windows 10 EOL

#20
someone needs to push Debian desktop or one of the derivatives...maybe a publicity blitz by PopOS or something

we replaced most of the machines in our office. There are 2 our finance person didn't want to replace, so we used the install check bypass for Win11, those employees don't really do much on those computers anyway...

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