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I wonder whether Discord will at some point start selling a "Discord for Business" product. Just adding SSO would get them 90% of the way there.
If you squint there are similarities to the situation that led Linus Torvalds down the build-it-yourself path. What a tool like Slack “is” is pretty well defined, and they’re not being evil but are just unable to support a very unique community in k8s.
Owning its own tools helps the community own its own destiny.
Can’t be a good sign financially or technically that Slack is unable to operate a 250 000 person instance.
I think technically they can. It’s because they’re downgrading them to a free service. I’m going to venture to say that it’s a money grab on a previously generous gift by slack.
does sound like it's causing issues that they don't want to deal with if it's not earning them money
But in the end, I never really relied on it for finding information, and am kind of sad that people keep creating chat communities instead of searchable forums.
I also think people overrate chat for actual learning or resolving issues. Even back in the IRC days, asking a question almost never yielded an immediate reply—-quite often you’d have to come back the day after and ask again, or check your DMs on screen overnight.
Forums let you ask and check for replies later, or search for similar questions, or even (shudder) get an e-mail reply, and Discord does exactly none of those things in a way that I find effective or productive.
Perhaps k8s could roll its own Slack replacement. Sound crazy? Consider git: born of specific needs of Linux kernel plus a struggle to use commercially available tools. If you squint there are similarities to the situation that led Linus Torvalds down the build-it-yourself path. What a tool like Slack “is” is pretty well defined, and they’re not being evil but are just unable to support a very unique community in k8s…
“Normie focussed multi platform api-driven rich text media chat system” is 100x that work and unrelated to k8s’ existing ocean boiling.
Can’t be a good sign financially or technically that Slack is unable to operate a 250 000 person instance.
I think technically they can. It’s because they’re downgrading them to a free service. I’m going to venture to say that it’s a money grab on a previously generous gift by slack.
> Slack, a Salesforce-owned workplace messaging app, recently blocked other software firms from searching or storing Slack messages, The Information reported on Tuesday, citing a public disclosure.
https://www.reuters.com/business/salesforce-blocks-ai-rivals...
Just isn’t practical to use Slack for open communities based on it’s pricing structure, but isn’t practical for Discord to exist based on it’s Profit and Loss statement. Gotta be some way to split the difference and make money with online community chat without paying north of $8 per user.
I'm sure they considered hosting matrix or zulip, I wonder what the estimated monthly cost of that would be for a community of their size