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A lot of work, but with success as reward! Makes you wonder how easy or difficult it will be in 30 years to 'recover' data from today.
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> Encryption for 30 years ago? Trivially breakable with quantum I wouldn't be so sure - quantum computers aren't nearly as effective for symmetric algorithms as they are for pre-quantum asymmetric algorithms.
Regardless of the parent's statement, just normal compute in 30 years, plus general vulnerabilities and weaknesses discovered, will ensure that anything encrypted today is easily readable in the future. I can't think of anything from 30 years ago that isn't just a joke today. The same will likely be true by 2050, quantum computing or not. I wonder how many people realise this? Even if one disagrees with my certainty,…
You are underestimating the exponential possibilities of keys.
>plus general vulnerabilities and weaknesses discovered, will ensure that anything encrypted today is easily readable in the future.
You can't just assume that there is always going to be new vulnerabilities that cause it to be broken. It ignores that people have improved at designing secure cryptography over time.
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> Encryption for 30 years ago? Trivially breakable with quantum I wouldn't be so sure - quantum computers aren't nearly as effective for symmetric algorithms as they are for pre-quantum asymmetric algorithms.
Regardless of the parent's statement, just normal compute in 30 years, plus general vulnerabilities and weaknesses discovered, will ensure that anything encrypted today is easily readable in the future. I can't think of anything from 30 years ago that isn't just a joke today. The same will likely be true by 2050, quantum computing or not. I wonder how many people realise this? Even if one disagrees with my certainty,…
AES is only 3 years shy of 30.
If you used MD5 as a keystream generator I believe that would still be secure and that's 33 years old.
3DES is still pretty secure, isn't it? That's 44 years old.
As for today's data, there's always risk into the future but we've gotten better as making secure algorithms over time and avoiding quantum attacks seems to mostly be a matter of doubling key length. I'd worry more about plain old leaks.
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> Makes you wonder how easy or difficult it will be in 30 years to 'recover' data from today. The challenges will be different. Flash loses its charge in 30 years, most disks are encrypted, and on-site physical backups are mostly a thing of the past. The source might survive in a cloud repo, but it'll either be tied up for legal reasons or deleted when the customer stops paying the bill. But storage is cheap and gett…
Easy. The “deleted” even overwritten data can leave ghosts even multiple layers deep (think of a clay tablet or painting with multiple inscriptions) Encryption for 30 years ago? Trivially breakable with quantum
I enjoyed skimming through this: https://github.com/HighwayFrogs/frogger2-vss/blob/main/teamS...
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> Makes you wonder how easy or difficult it will be in 30 years to 'recover' data from today. The challenges will be different. Flash loses its charge in 30 years, most disks are encrypted, and on-site physical backups are mostly a thing of the past. The source might survive in a cloud repo, but it'll either be tied up for legal reasons or deleted when the customer stops paying the bill. But storage is cheap and gett…
Easy. The “deleted” even overwritten data can leave ghosts even multiple layers deep (think of a clay tablet or painting with multiple inscriptions) Encryption for 30 years ago? Trivially breakable with quantum
The source code: https://github.com/HighwayFrogs/frogger2-vss I enjoyed skimming through this: https://github.com/HighwayFrogs/frogger2-vss/blob/main/teamS...
The source code: https://github.com/HighwayFrogs/frogger2-vss I enjoyed skimming through this: https://github.com/HighwayFrogs/frogger2-vss/blob/main/teamS...
https://github.com/Kneesnap/onstream-data-recovery/blob/main...
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Regardless of the parent's statement, just normal compute in 30 years, plus general vulnerabilities and weaknesses discovered, will ensure that anything encrypted today is easily readable in the future. I can't think of anything from 30 years ago that isn't just a joke today. The same will likely be true by 2050, quantum computing or not. I wonder how many people realise this? Even if one disagrees with my certainty,…
>normal compute You are underestimating the exponential possibilities of keys. >plus general vulnerabilities and weaknesses discovered, will ensure that anything encrypted today is easily readable in the future. You can't just assume that there is always going to be new vulnerabilities that cause it to be broken. It ignores that people have improved at designing secure cryptography over time.
An example being, destroying sensitive backup media upon its retirement, regardless of data encryption.