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US ambassador to Israel:US no longer pursuing goal independent Palestinian state

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Re: US ambassador to Israel:US no longer pursuing goal independent Palestinian state

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Destabilization (e.g., military wars, trade wars, immigration wars, etc.) favors the strongest / wealthiest. Such chaos favors the status quo. The USA has no interest in peace in the Middle East.

The US just established the Abraham accords, with a large amount of majority Arab countries recognising Israel right before Hamas attacked. There’s a theory the attacks had a larger political goal which was to stop this widespread support for Jews living in their homeland.

Re: US ambassador to Israel:US no longer pursuing goal independent Palestinian state

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post #9

I honestly do not think a geographically separated Palestinian state would work exactly for the same reasons it did not work out for east Pakistan, which is now Bangladesh. Clearly one of two things will ultimately occur: 1. A right wing Israeli government will eject non-citizen Arabs from the land either by settlement, starvation, or ejection. Then Israel will annex that land. This can only occur because everyone el…

Not challenging, but undoable. All parties capable of it will never do it. My (quite pessimistic) prediction for Israel is that the moment US is busy somewhere else, neighbors will attack en masse.

Neighbours have always attacked en masse: in 1948 they attacked en masse and lost and a Jewish state was established, in 1967 they attacked en masse and lost and Israel gained Judea and Samaria / West bank, in 1973 they attacked en masse and lost. Plus various combinations of Iran, Hamas and Hezbollah attacking since, and losing.

Re: US ambassador to Israel:US no longer pursuing goal independent Palestinian state

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post #5

A sign of things to come for the natives of Greenland if they are invaded by Americans.

Trump and his buffoon class havent done anything major in their lives beyond Attention Capture. We live in an Attention Economy that massively benefits Attention seekers. So it become easy to mistake attention capture with getting complicated things done.

Trump is just the tool of the heritage Foundation and the federalist society, project 2025 is their plan. If trump goes against them he'll be out in no time and their true puppet can take his place, Vance.

Re: US ambassador to Israel:US no longer pursuing goal independent Palestinian state

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post #12

No surprises here. The settler colonialist project continues.

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So everyone living there now is not from another country?

Either way, what we both stated is not mutually exclusive.

Re: US ambassador to Israel:US no longer pursuing goal independent Palestinian state

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post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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So everyone living there now is not from another country? Either way, what we both stated is not mutually exclusive.

The majority of Jewish people in Israel are Mizrahi Jews, ie they remained in the Middle East in places like Israel, Iraq, Iran, Syria. There are also Ashekanzi Jews who are also Jewish but migrated to Europe, kept in isolated communities, and returned. 20% of the population are also Arabs that arrived from the Arabian peninsula.

Re: US ambassador to Israel:US no longer pursuing goal independent Palestinian state

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post #11

Destabilization (e.g., military wars, trade wars, immigration wars, etc.) favors the strongest / wealthiest. Such chaos favors the status quo. The USA has no interest in peace in the Middle East.

The US just established the Abraham accords, with a large amount of majority Arab countries recognising Israel right before Hamas attacked. There’s a theory the attacks had a larger political goal which was to stop this widespread support for Jews living in their homeland.

No, you don't understand. US bad. Middle eastern "natives" good (the absurdity of calling anyone natives in a region that was conquered about 6 times, half the population deported and a fresh group of "loyal" subjects shipped in from elsewhere every 300 years since Julius Caesar vacationed in Egypt is too much for me)

Those natives just committed a large massacre? They're still good. Did a few massacres on their own people on the way? Still good.

US actually got close to a big peace deal? Still bad. The US doing everything for oil? EVIL! (... never mind that without oil the entire region, except Israel, would be worse than Afghanistan in every way imaginable, including human rights)

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