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With Gemini 2.5 in AI studio you can now increase the amount of thinking tokens, and it definitely makes a difference. O3 pro is most likely O3 with an expanded thinking token budget.
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Re: OpenAI o3-pro
#12Related:
OpenAI dropped the price of o3 by 80%
Re: OpenAI o3-pro
#13here's a nice user review we published: https://www.latent.space/p/o3-pro
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> "The plan o3 gave us was plausible, reasonable; but the plan o3 Pro gave us was specific and rooted enough that it actually changed how we are thinking about our future."
I kept nudging the team to go the whole way to just let o3 be their CEO but they didn't bite yet haha
Re: OpenAI o3-pro
#14I understand that things are moving fast and all, but surely the.. 8? models which are currently available is a bit .. overwhelming for users that just want to get answers to their questions of life? What's the end goal with having so many models available?
I just can’t believe nobody at the company has enough courage to tell their leadership that their naming scheme is completely stupid and insane. Four is greater than three, and so four should be better than three. The point of a name is to describe something so that you don’t confuse your users, not to be cute.
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#15I understand that things are moving fast and all, but surely the.. 8? models which are currently available is a bit .. overwhelming for users that just want to get answers to their questions of life? What's the end goal with having so many models available?
free users don't have this model selector, and probably don't care which model they get so 4o is good enough. paid users at 20$/month get more models which are better, like o3. paid users at 200$/month get the best models that are also costing OpenAI the most money, like o3-pro. I think they plan to unify them with GPT-5.
That doesn't help much when we're asymptotically approaching GPT-5. We're probably going to be at GPT-4.9999 soon.
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#16I understand that things are moving fast and all, but surely the.. 8? models which are currently available is a bit .. overwhelming for users that just want to get answers to their questions of life? What's the end goal with having so many models available?
I just can’t believe nobody at the company has enough courage to tell their leadership that their naming scheme is completely stupid and insane. Four is greater than three, and so four should be better than three. The point of a name is to describe something so that you don’t confuse your users, not to be cute.
At Techcrunch AI last week, the OpenAI guy started his presentation by acknowledging that OpenAI knows their naming is a problem and they're working on it, but it won't be fixed immediately.
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#17I understand that things are moving fast and all, but surely the.. 8? models which are currently available is a bit .. overwhelming for users that just want to get answers to their questions of life? What's the end goal with having so many models available?
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Re: OpenAI o3-pro
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With Gemini 2.5 in AI studio you can now increase the amount of thinking tokens, and it definitely makes a difference. O3 pro is most likely O3 with an expanded thinking token budget.
Isn't that just increasing the upper bound on thinking tokens, which is rarely hit even on much lower levels?
Re: OpenAI o3-pro
#19The benchmarks don’t look _that_ much better than o3. Does that mean Pro models are just incrementally better than base models, or are we approaching the higher end of a sigmoid function, with performance gains leveling off?
Don’t they have a full fledged version of o4 somewhere internally at this point?
Re: OpenAI o3-pro
#20I understand that things are moving fast and all, but surely the.. 8? models which are currently available is a bit .. overwhelming for users that just want to get answers to their questions of life? What's the end goal with having so many models available?
free users don't have this model selector, and probably don't care which model they get so 4o is good enough. paid users at 20$/month get more models which are better, like o3. paid users at 200$/month get the best models that are also costing OpenAI the most money, like o3-pro. I think they plan to unify them with GPT-5.
I'd be curious what proportion of paid users ever switch models. I'd guess < 10%