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XLibre Xserver: Banned by Red Hat Developer Plans Revival of X11

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Re: XLibre Xserver: Banned by Red Hat Developer Plans Revival of X11

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Post by Rochus »

84ydk wrote: post #9
Rochus wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The continuation of X11 is likely not why he was banned. Well, according to the article, Weigelt claims he was censored and that the ban was an attempt by Red Hat to eliminate competition and push for the adoption of Wayland; this action resulted in the deletion of his account, repositories, tickets, and over 140 merge requests associated with the Xorg project.

Well, i can claim i am the king of England and it wont make it any more true then he saying he was censored.. He sent a ton of merge requests with crap code without doing any basic testing that broke a bunch of stuff without doing any meaningful work, there was no new features, no bugs fixed, no nothing, he was only changing code style and rearranging stuff without really any basic understanding on why things are the…

I don't know how much research the author/publisher of the article did. They claim on their site that "Linuxiac is an independent media platform that publishes the latest news from the Linux world and open-source software. Founded by Bobby Borisov and launched in May 2020, it has quickly become a trusted resource for thousands of users daily, providing insights into all things Linux & open source."

Re: XLibre Xserver: Banned by Red Hat Developer Plans Revival of X11

#12

Post by 84ydk »

Rochus wrote: post #11
84ydk wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, i can claim i am the king of England and it wont make it any more true then he saying he was censored.. He sent a ton of merge requests with crap code without doing any basic testing that broke a bunch of stuff without doing any meaningful work, there was no new features, no bugs fixed, no nothing, he was only changing code style and rearranging stuff without really any basic understanding on why things are the…

I don't know how much research the author/publisher of the article did. They claim on their site that "Linuxiac is an independent media platform that publishes the latest news from the Linux world and open-source software. Founded by Bobby Borisov and launched in May 2020, it has quickly become a trusted resource for thousands of users daily, providing insights into all things Linux & open source."

dont know where he said that and not sure why this is relevant..

i have seen his PRs myself and fully agreee with the author/publisher..

Re: XLibre Xserver: Banned by Red Hat Developer Plans Revival of X11

#13

Post by Rochus »

84ydk wrote: post #12
Rochus wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't know how much research the author/publisher of the article did. They claim on their site that "Linuxiac is an independent media platform that publishes the latest news from the Linux world and open-source software. Founded by Bobby Borisov and launched in May 2020, it has quickly become a trusted resource for thousands of users daily, providing insights into all things Linux & open source."

dont know where he said that and not sure why this is relevant.. i have seen his PRs myself and fully agreee with the author/publisher..

I didn't have that much press when I forked Qt and started LeanQt ;-)

Re: XLibre Xserver: Banned by Red Hat Developer Plans Revival of X11

#14

Post by Rochus »

wmf wrote: post #8
Rochus wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The continuation of X11 is likely not why he was banned. Well, according to the article, Weigelt claims he was censored and that the ban was an attempt by Red Hat to eliminate competition and push for the adoption of Wayland; this action resulted in the deletion of his account, repositories, tickets, and over 140 merge requests associated with the Xorg project.

Textbook conspiracy theory. Now let's hear the other side.

The article presents both sides and rather states a pessimistic view on the Xlibre project's chances of success.

Re: XLibre Xserver: Banned by Red Hat Developer Plans Revival of X11

#15

Post by Mordagh »

em-bee wrote: post #2

i am all for sunsetting X11, move it to the attic, abandon it, whatever. but banning someone who cares about it and removing their proposed contributions, feels hostile. letting interested people take over an old project that you no longer care about is part of what FOSS is all about.

  > but banning someone who cares about it and removing
  > their proposed contributions, feels hostile.
I was curious about this so I did a little digging. It looks like the other developers were not happy with the quality of his contributions. Reading the discussions in https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/xorg/xserver/-/issues/1760 and https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/xorg/xserver/-/issues/1797 sheds a lot of light on the problems. Quoting two comments from the dozens there:

  > @metux i appreciate you maintaining and trying to improve Xorg but
  > this is the second time you break it recently, you really should
  > implement more testing...
and

  > Honestly, I would strongly recommend just not merging anything @metux
  > does from now on. I do not feel that their presence here has been a net
  > positive -- I have seen zero actual bugs solved by any of their code
  > changes. What I have seen is build breakage, ABI breakage, and ecosystem
  > churn from moving code around and deleting code.
  > Xorg could use some actual maintenance, but that means fixing actual
  > bugs and solving real problems.
In my search I also found that the XLibre project description mentions "BigTech moles killing Xorg", XLibre being "free of DEI discrimination" and wanting to "Make X great again!" (https://github.com/X11Libre/xserver). And he posted an antivax conspiracy on the Linux kernel mailing list (https://lkml.org/lkml/2021/6/10/903). And he appears to be a German WW2 apologist (https://web.archive.org/web/20190404153507/https://lists.dyn...). So... there's that too.

Re: XLibre Xserver: Banned by Red Hat Developer Plans Revival of X11

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Post by airhangerf15 »

Mordagh wrote: post #15
em-bee wrote: post #2

i am all for sunsetting X11, move it to the attic, abandon it, whatever. but banning someone who cares about it and removing their proposed contributions, feels hostile. letting interested people take over an old project that you no longer care about is part of what FOSS is all about.

> but banning someone who cares about it and removing > their proposed contributions, feels hostile. I was curious about this so I did a little digging. It looks like the other developers were not happy with the quality of his contributions. Reading the discussions in https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/xorg/xserver/-/issues/1760 and https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/xorg/xserver/-/issues/1797 sheds a lot of light on the pro…

Well, at least he has views I can get behind. I just wish he was a better coder. /shrug

Re: XLibre Xserver: Banned by Red Hat Developer Plans Revival of X11

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Post by g-b-r »

Mordagh wrote: post #15
em-bee wrote: post #2

i am all for sunsetting X11, move it to the attic, abandon it, whatever. but banning someone who cares about it and removing their proposed contributions, feels hostile. letting interested people take over an old project that you no longer care about is part of what FOSS is all about.

> but banning someone who cares about it and removing > their proposed contributions, feels hostile. I was curious about this so I did a little digging. It looks like the other developers were not happy with the quality of his contributions. Reading the discussions in https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/xorg/xserver/-/issues/1760 and https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/xorg/xserver/-/issues/1797 sheds a lot of light on the pro…

I ran into him (@nekradq) at https://t.me/linuxgramgroup, he writes there all the time.

He's even worse than what others already said.

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