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Ship Carrying EVs Abandoned in Pacific After Catching Fire
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#12Of the 3000 cars only 800 were EVs, and there’s no evidence yet they were the source of the fire. The headline seems misleading.
From the MSN article linked below: “ UK-based shipowner Zodiac Maritime has since confirmed that the fire originated in the section of the vessel carrying electric vehicles.”
Is an EV with 2% charge in the battery any more or less prone to spontaneous combustion than one with 10%, 50%, or 100% of charge?
I'm under the assumption that these are roll on/roll off carriers and that cars themselves are driven on and off (so they have some level of charge or fuel).
I know that batteries (apparently) can "just catch fire", I just don't know what the risk of fire to charge capacity of the battery is.
Re: Ship Carrying EVs Abandoned in Pacific After Catching Fire
#13If EV's used well-engineered Lithium Iron Phosphate (LiFePO4) batteries (ie. with proper controllers, built-in heaters to avoid sub-zero charging, etc.) how much fire risk would that alleviate?
Re: Ship Carrying EVs Abandoned in Pacific After Catching Fire
#14If EV's used well-engineered Lithium Iron Phosphate (LiFePO4) batteries (ie. with proper controllers, built-in heaters to avoid sub-zero charging, etc.) how much fire risk would that alleviate?
Some discussion: https://mechanics.stackexchange.com/questions/97206/why-dont...
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#16Where does the buck stop in this scenario? My assumption is the manufacturers have already been paid, so does that mean they don't care about this? I'm thinking the individual dealer owners of the vehicles probably have to file claims with their insurance companies. So insurance rates will go up. Is that where it ends?
Re: Ship Carrying EVs Abandoned in Pacific After Catching Fire
#17Where does the buck stop in this scenario? My assumption is the manufacturers have already been paid, so does that mean they don't care about this? I'm thinking the individual dealer owners of the vehicles probably have to file claims with their insurance companies. So insurance rates will go up. Is that where it ends?
Unless someone was negligent in causing the fire that is likely the end of it.
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#18Earlier quoted context omitted.
From the MSN article linked below: “ UK-based shipowner Zodiac Maritime has since confirmed that the fire originated in the section of the vessel carrying electric vehicles.”
Is an EV with 2% charge in the battery any more or less prone to spontaneous combustion than one with 10%, 50%, or 100% of charge? I'm under the assumption that these are roll on/roll off carriers and that cars themselves are driven on and off (so they have some level of charge or fuel). I know that batteries (apparently) can "just catch fire", I just don't know what the risk of fire to charge capacity of the battery…
Higher than 80% is bad.
Re: Ship Carrying EVs Abandoned in Pacific After Catching Fire
#19Earlier quoted context omitted.
From the MSN article linked below: “ UK-based shipowner Zodiac Maritime has since confirmed that the fire originated in the section of the vessel carrying electric vehicles.”
Is an EV with 2% charge in the battery any more or less prone to spontaneous combustion than one with 10%, 50%, or 100% of charge? I'm under the assumption that these are roll on/roll off carriers and that cars themselves are driven on and off (so they have some level of charge or fuel). I know that batteries (apparently) can "just catch fire", I just don't know what the risk of fire to charge capacity of the battery…
Higher state of charge absolutely correlates with fire danger - there are physical mechanisms in play where highly charged lithium batteries can have dentritic shorts, for example, which cause thermal runaway almost immediately.
It’s a much higher risk during charging as that is when the structures typically form, but they can also be borderline and then ‘cross the border’ suddenly when just sitting there.
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#20Of the 3000 cars only 800 were EVs, and there’s no evidence yet they were the source of the fire. The headline seems misleading.
I don't know if there's any relation but I see clear surge in anti EV news in North America and Europe, so much that my apophenia is itching a lot.