#1: You can install Win 11 on older machines from boot media.
#2: End-of-updates isn't the security vulnerability large software vendors make it out to be, in the context of PC use. The paragraph below the first picture is FUD.
KDE for Windows 10 Exiles – Upgrade your software, not your computer
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Re: KDE for Windows 10 Exiles – Upgrade your software, not your computer
#12This really just blows my mind that Microsoft believes people are going to throw their perfectly functional laptops/desktops into the trash. All Microsoft has to do to keep people on Windows and in the Microsoft ecosystem would be to offer a supported version of Windows 11 without the CPU and TPM 2.0 requirements. For me, every one of the older machines in my household (laptops and desktops) that are currently on Win…
This is, in fact, the point. They do not want the support burden and negative security posture of supporting billions of computers that cannot have a locked bootloader.
The legally enforced monopoly on support is to blame for this, not well-functioning hardware.
Re: KDE for Windows 10 Exiles – Upgrade your software, not your computer
#13This really just blows my mind that Microsoft believes people are going to throw their perfectly functional laptops/desktops into the trash. All Microsoft has to do to keep people on Windows and in the Microsoft ecosystem would be to offer a supported version of Windows 11 without the CPU and TPM 2.0 requirements. For me, every one of the older machines in my household (laptops and desktops) that are currently on Win…
You can install Win 11, but not in-place. Need to use boot media. This is an obstacle for many people, but not someone who would I stall Linux. (From boot media)
It's about having a fully supported Windows 11 install vs bypassing the CPU and TPM check the installer does.
Re: KDE for Windows 10 Exiles – Upgrade your software, not your computer
#14It's not relevant now, but back when I started using Linux (Red Hat 7.1 I think) what made me choose KDE was that with KDE all the apps had a conspicuous 'K' in their names whereas Gnome app did not, so it was easier to get a consistent user experience. After that it was Konqueror with the different protocols like "wk:" in the address bar to search Wikipedia. Then when I learned more, it just seemed like Qt was a muc…
> everything is now a webapp When, why and how became this a good thing?
(edit, misread)
Re: KDE for Windows 10 Exiles – Upgrade your software, not your computer
#15KDE is actually a good example of why non-Linux users say that Linux users would actually prefer to use Windows.
This is weird to say when Microsoft has been very obviously inspired by KDE.
When KDE started, it was strongly influenced by CDE. It became more Windows-y with every major(ish) version, while Windows did not get any (relevant) inspiration from CDE.
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#17This really just blows my mind that Microsoft believes people are going to throw their perfectly functional laptops/desktops into the trash. All Microsoft has to do to keep people on Windows and in the Microsoft ecosystem would be to offer a supported version of Windows 11 without the CPU and TPM 2.0 requirements. For me, every one of the older machines in my household (laptops and desktops) that are currently on Win…
This is, in fact, the point. They do not want the support burden and negative security posture of supporting billions of computers that cannot have a locked bootloader.
Negative security?
Re: KDE for Windows 10 Exiles – Upgrade your software, not your computer
#18Earlier quoted context omitted.
You can install Win 11, but not in-place. Need to use boot media. This is an obstacle for many people, but not someone who would I stall Linux. (From boot media)
It's about having a fully supported Windows 11 install vs bypassing the CPU and TPM check the installer does.
Is there a practical difference? I.e, what does fully supported mean? For context, I had assumed an older laptop was unable to upgrade until I tried it, then did some research. Wondering if I missed something subtle.
Re: KDE for Windows 10 Exiles – Upgrade your software, not your computer
#19It's not relevant now, but back when I started using Linux (Red Hat 7.1 I think) what made me choose KDE was that with KDE all the apps had a conspicuous 'K' in their names whereas Gnome app did not, so it was easier to get a consistent user experience. After that it was Konqueror with the different protocols like "wk:" in the address bar to search Wikipedia. Then when I learned more, it just seemed like Qt was a muc…
> everything is now a webapp When, why and how became this a good thing?
When? When the majority of SW dev work became synonymous with web dev.
Why? Because that's what web devs are comfortable with.
How became this a good thing? When web apps became the easiest way to deploy cross platform.
Re: KDE for Windows 10 Exiles – Upgrade your software, not your computer
#20Something often ignored by articles like these: you can still use Windows 10 safely past the 10 year support period, if you pay for additional updates: https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/whats-new/extended...
Realistically, many people will use registry hacks and other forms of piracy to get those updates for free, of course, just like people did with Windows 7. Only businesses or people afraid of viruses will pay, but that's probably enough for Microsoft.
I find it quite confusing to seemingly target people still unaware that Windows 10 is going out of support, but also list FTP/SSH/git/SVN integration as a feature. The people who use version control probably know what alternatives are or aren't available (even if they'd rather not need to find an alternative).