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Re: Cloudlflare builds OAuth with Claude and publishes all the prompts

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>In all seriousness, two months ago (January 2025), I (@kentonv) would have agreed.

I'm confused by "I (@kentonv)" means here because kentonv is a different user.[0] Are you saying this is your alt? Or is this a typo/misunderstanding?

Edit: Figured out that most of your post is quoting the README. Consider using > and * characters to clarify.

[0] https://news.ycombinator.com/user?id=kentonv

Re: Cloudlflare builds OAuth with Claude and publishes all the prompts

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I think this is pretty cool, but it doesn't really move my priors that much. Looking at the commit history shows a lot of handholding even in pretty basic situations, but on the other hand they probably saved a lot of time vs. doing everything manually.

Re: Cloudlflare builds OAuth with Claude and publishes all the prompts

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post #9

Yup. I'm more skeptic than pro-AI these days, but nonetheless i'm still trying to use AI in my workflows. I don't actually enjoy it, i generally find it difficult to use as i have more trouble explaining what i want than actually just doing it. However it seems clear that this is not going away and to some degree it's "the future". I suspect it's better to learn the new tools of my craft than to be caught unaware. Wi…

Probably unrelated to the broader discussion, but I don't think the "skeptic vs pro-AI" distinction even makes that much sense. For example, I usually come off as being relatively skeptic within the HN crowd, but I'm actually pushing for more usage at work. This kind of "opinion arbitrage" is common with new technologies.

> but I don't think the "skeptic vs pro-AI" distinction even makes that much sense

Tends to be like that with subjects once feelings get involved. Make any skepticism public, even if you don't feel strongly either way, and you get one side of extremists yelling at you about X. At the same time, say anything positive and you get the zealots from the other side yelling at you about Y.

Us who tend to be not so extremist gets push back from both sides, either in the same conversations or in different places, while both see you as belonging to "the other side" while in reality you're just trying to take a somewhat balanced approach.

These "us vs them" never made sense to me, for (almost) any topic. Truth usually sits somewhere around the middle, and a balanced approach seems to usually result in more benefits overall, at least personally for me.

Re: Cloudlflare builds OAuth with Claude and publishes all the prompts

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post #10

This is exactly the direction I expect AI-assisted coding to go in. Not software engineers being kicked out and some business person pressing a few buttons to have a fully functional app (as is playing out in a lot of fantasies on LinkedIn & X), but rather experienced engineers using AI to generate bits of code and then meticulously reviewing and testing them. The million dollar (perhaps literally) question is – coul…

> The million dollar (perhaps literally) question is – could @kentonv have written this library quicker by himself without any AI help?

I *think* the answer to this is clearly no: or at least, given what we can accomplish today with the tools we have now, and that we are still collectively learning how to effectively use this, there's no way it won't be faster (with effective use) in another 3-6 months to fully-code new solutions with AI. I think it requires a lot of work: well-documented, well-structured codebases with fast built-in feedback loops (good linting/unit tests etc.), but we're heading there no

Re: Cloudlflare builds OAuth with Claude and publishes all the prompts

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post #13

> In all seriousness, two months ago (January 2025), I (@kentonv) would have agreed. I'm confused by "I (@kentonv)" means here because kentonv is a different user.[0] Are you saying this is your alt? Or is this a typo/misunderstanding? Edit: Figured out that most of your post is quoting the README. Consider using > and * characters to clarify. [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/user?id=kentonv

He is quoting from the project readme. I wrote all this text.

Re: Cloudlflare builds OAuth with Claude and publishes all the prompts

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post #13

> In all seriousness, two months ago (January 2025), I (@kentonv) would have agreed. I'm confused by "I (@kentonv)" means here because kentonv is a different user.[0] Are you saying this is your alt? Or is this a typo/misunderstanding? Edit: Figured out that most of your post is quoting the README. Consider using > and * characters to clarify. [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/user?id=kentonv

It's a literal copy-paste from the README, I think it was supposed to be quoted but parent messed it up somehow.

https://github.com/cloudflare/workers-oauth-provider/blob/fe...

Re: Cloudlflare builds OAuth with Claude and publishes all the prompts

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post #13

> In all seriousness, two months ago (January 2025), I (@kentonv) would have agreed. I'm confused by "I (@kentonv)" means here because kentonv is a different user.[0] Are you saying this is your alt? Or is this a typo/misunderstanding? Edit: Figured out that most of your post is quoting the README. Consider using > and * characters to clarify. [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/user?id=kentonv

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