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Doge cuts to USAid blamed for 300k deaths – most of them children

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Re: Doge cuts to USAid blamed for 300k deaths – most of them children

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First to get this out of the way, I do not support the destruction of USAID and I definitely do not support the death of 300,000 people. This study brings to light a hidden problem of countries and individuals dependent on foreign aid. There should’ve been plans in place to reduce foreign aid dependency over time. Yes provide aid as needed & appropriate, but work out what it’ll take for the country to not need it and…

As conspiratorial as this sounds, alot of successfull non-profit organisations have a vested interest in becoming a critical part of their infrastructure so that funding cuts would be a humanitarian disaster in of itself which neccecitates the continuation of the organisation.

Foreign aid has always been a double edged sword when it comes to self-reliance and lasting change

Re: Doge cuts to USAid blamed for 300k deaths – most of them children

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First to get this out of the way, I do not support the destruction of USAID and I definitely do not support the death of 300,000 people. This study brings to light a hidden problem of countries and individuals dependent on foreign aid. There should’ve been plans in place to reduce foreign aid dependency over time. Yes provide aid as needed & appropriate, but work out what it’ll take for the country to not need it and…

> Is there something I don’t know?

How do you know that the people and countries dependent on this aid were also not working on making themselves less dependent? Are you aware that poverty is decreasing world wide and many countries have successfully developed over the last several decades? How do you know that USAID did not accelerate this processes by helping take care of vulnerable people, so the less vulnerable would have more resources to develop faster?

Re: Doge cuts to USAid blamed for 300k deaths – most of them children

#14

First to get this out of the way, I do not support the destruction of USAID and I definitely do not support the death of 300,000 people. This study brings to light a hidden problem of countries and individuals dependent on foreign aid. There should’ve been plans in place to reduce foreign aid dependency over time. Yes provide aid as needed & appropriate, but work out what it’ll take for the country to not need it and…

Not only that, but the whole system was such that the very type and nature of the support led to ever more dependency and creation of yet more need that the system could then further argue needed more support, i.e., a self-licking ice cream cone.

Worse yet, at the cost and expense of people who are damaged by being forced to support this system against their will.

I propose that everyone that supports things like USAID be able to willingly and freely sign up to have their taxes increased by whatever proportional amount is necessary to fund it every year. We need to move to a voluntarist system for anything but the tightest core functions of government.

It is a win-win, USAID continues and people get to feel good about themselves, while others are not damaged by being forced to support it against their will.

Re: Doge cuts to USAid blamed for 300k deaths – most of them children

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First to get this out of the way, I do not support the destruction of USAID and I definitely do not support the death of 300,000 people. This study brings to light a hidden problem of countries and individuals dependent on foreign aid. There should’ve been plans in place to reduce foreign aid dependency over time. Yes provide aid as needed & appropriate, but work out what it’ll take for the country to not need it and…

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Re: Doge cuts to USAid blamed for 300k deaths – most of them children

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First to get this out of the way, I do not support the destruction of USAID and I definitely do not support the death of 300,000 people. This study brings to light a hidden problem of countries and individuals dependent on foreign aid. There should’ve been plans in place to reduce foreign aid dependency over time. Yes provide aid as needed & appropriate, but work out what it’ll take for the country to not need it and…

> This study brings to light a hidden problem of countries and individuals dependent on foreign aid. There should’ve been plans in place to reduce foreign aid dependency over time.

This would be a reasonable topic to discuss, if only these cuts to USAID didn't resulted in supplies decaying in warehouses. This means no cost was cut and no expense was averted: just waste. Those desperately depending on these supplies to survive simply didn't.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us-aid-cuts-leave-food-million...

It's like preaching people in food lines about the need to pull themselves by the bootstraps, and depriving from their next meal.

Re: Doge cuts to USAid blamed for 300k deaths – most of them children

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First to get this out of the way, I do not support the destruction of USAID and I definitely do not support the death of 300,000 people. This study brings to light a hidden problem of countries and individuals dependent on foreign aid. There should’ve been plans in place to reduce foreign aid dependency over time. Yes provide aid as needed & appropriate, but work out what it’ll take for the country to not need it and…

> Otherwise a sudden halt of aid can lead to, well, exactly this.

A sudden halt in funding for any project, domestic or otherwise, is catastrophic to that project.

While I don’t disagree with your point, it’s also not really the crux of the problem.

Also it’s a lot easier said than done asking recipients of aid to become self sufficient. In a lot of cases the problems are either poverty, which means aid would still be needed to fund any “self sufficient” services, or that the foreign governments really are more corrupt than Trump. The end result often means people flee from their country and then Trump supporters start moaning about immigration. Ultimately you have to pay the price either way.

My personal opinion is that we should be paying too. In many cases you can trace these issues back to exploitation lead by the 1st world. So you could reasonably argue that we owe them this aid. But even if you don’t want to do it for reasons of morality, supporting developing countries still helps with the immigration “problem” in the long run.

Re: Doge cuts to USAid blamed for 300k deaths – most of them children

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>The numbers are not recorded deaths, but rather predictions. “They’re modelled numbers and I recognise the limitations that that comes with,” she said. “We don’t have routine data sets that we can measure someone as ‘killed by the US lack of funding’.” Why are journos so dishonest?

Where exactly do you see the dishonesty here? Is it just the title?
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