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Bluesky user activity has declined by 23% over the past three months

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Re: Bluesky user activity has declined by 23% over the past three months

#11
Bluesky has the same problem as Mastodon. Both of which fully understand their problem; neither of which are willing to change.

It's ultimately their choice to make. The current choice means they can never take off and they automatically let X win.

Who am I to tell them what to do?

It must be about 2 years ago when they published their community guideline rules and it's trivial to see how they have no chance of success.

Re: Bluesky user activity has declined by 23% over the past three months

#12

Bluesky has the same problem as Mastodon. Both of which fully understand their problem; neither of which are willing to change. It's ultimately their choice to make. The current choice means they can never take off and they automatically let X win. Who am I to tell them what to do? It must be about 2 years ago when they published their community guideline rules and it's trivial to see how they have no chance of succe…

Hmm? What’s so objectionable in the community guideline rules?

Re: Bluesky user activity has declined by 23% over the past three months

#13

Bluesky has the same problem as Mastodon. Both of which fully understand their problem; neither of which are willing to change. It's ultimately their choice to make. The current choice means they can never take off and they automatically let X win. Who am I to tell them what to do? It must be about 2 years ago when they published their community guideline rules and it's trivial to see how they have no chance of succe…

> community guideline rules

There's no such thing in Mastodon. Each server can choose their own rules.

Re: Bluesky user activity has declined by 23% over the past three months

#14

Bluesky has the same problem as Mastodon. Both of which fully understand their problem; neither of which are willing to change. It's ultimately their choice to make. The current choice means they can never take off and they automatically let X win. Who am I to tell them what to do? It must be about 2 years ago when they published their community guideline rules and it's trivial to see how they have no chance of succe…

> community guideline rules There's no such thing in Mastodon. Each server can choose their own rules.

>There's no such thing in Mastodon. Each server can choose their own rules.

Gab is a mastodon fork that is isolated from mastodon. What community guidelines did Gab violate?

Re: Bluesky user activity has declined by 23% over the past three months

#15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> community guideline rules There's no such thing in Mastodon. Each server can choose their own rules.

>There's no such thing in Mastodon. Each server can choose their own rules. Gab is a mastodon fork that is isolated from mastodon. What community guidelines did Gab violate?

Each server decides on their own about interacting with other servers. Gab wasn't isolated by all servers, just those who prefer certain rules. You can create a server with your own rules.

Re: Bluesky user activity has declined by 23% over the past three months

#16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>There's no such thing in Mastodon. Each server can choose their own rules. Gab is a mastodon fork that is isolated from mastodon. What community guidelines did Gab violate?

Each server decides on their own about interacting with other servers. Gab wasn't isolated by all servers, just those who prefer certain rules. You can create a server with your own rules.

What’s with all this beating around the bush? What “certain rules”? What community guideline did Bluesky implement to ensure they’d never “take off”?

Re: Bluesky user activity has declined by 23% over the past three months

#17
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This is the reality of a platform that is hostile to corporations (even if it is hostile for good reasons). As far as I could tell, the company running Bluesky has limited ideas about monetization. In part, because they’re well aware their user base is hostile to X-style monetization (which, sure, probably made money, but at what cost?) Hopefully some other ATProto implementor will come along with a better idea. It i…

But doesn't it mean that it's better for users? Why don't user go there? Do they like being abused by corporations? Genuinely interested. I don't get why people would use X and not Bluesky.

Social media has extremely high network externalities. People who are information consumers want to go where the people who are active posters are, and people who are active posters want to go where the audience is.

The actual qualities of the product are almost irrelevant if you have the current user base; it takes very a lot to get even a sizable minority of people to actively use social media that doesn't have that kind of established dominance in the face of social media that does, and it has to be sustained.

That's why most new successful social media sites (even though over time they may converge on feature sets) become successful by dominating some particular new media or interaction style not supported well on existing social media—it effectively lets them operate as if there was no dominant competitor, as an add-on rather than replacement for existing dominant social media. But Bluesky doesn't have that.

Re: Bluesky user activity has declined by 23% over the past three months

#18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Each server decides on their own about interacting with other servers. Gab wasn't isolated by all servers, just those who prefer certain rules. You can create a server with your own rules.

What’s with all this beating around the bush? What “certain rules”? What community guideline did Bluesky implement to ensure they’d never “take off”?

Which beating? There's no single set of rules in Mastodon and it can't exist, just like with emails. Large servers (like Gmail) can make their rules and ban everyone who disagrees, but you can conclude that "email has unfair rules" from that.

I don't really care about the centralized Bluesky.

Re: Bluesky user activity has declined by 23% over the past three months

#19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What’s with all this beating around the bush? What “certain rules”? What community guideline did Bluesky implement to ensure they’d never “take off”?

Which beating? There's no single set of rules in Mastodon and it can't exist, just like with emails. Large servers (like Gmail) can make their rules and ban everyone who disagrees, but you can conclude that "email has unfair rules" from that. I don't really care about the centralized Bluesky.

> Gab wasn't isolated by all servers, just those who prefer certain rules.

That’s the sentence I’m referencing. I understand how Mastodon works theoretically, but I have no idea why Gab was partially excluded. I haven’t been on Mastodon in years.

This apparently plays into why OP thinks Bluesky is a dead end, so.

Re: Bluesky user activity has declined by 23% over the past three months

#20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Which beating? There's no single set of rules in Mastodon and it can't exist, just like with emails. Large servers (like Gmail) can make their rules and ban everyone who disagrees, but you can conclude that "email has unfair rules" from that. I don't really care about the centralized Bluesky.

> Gab wasn't isolated by all servers, just those who prefer certain rules. That’s the sentence I’m referencing. I understand how Mastodon works theoretically, but I have no idea why Gab was partially excluded. I haven’t been on Mastodon in years. This apparently plays into why OP thinks Bluesky is a dead end, so.

> I have no idea why Gab was partially excluded

https://blog.joinmastodon.org/2019/07/statement-on-gabs-fork...

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19847481

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