I don’t understand the value proposition of TeleMessage. Uses Signal but defeats the point of using Signal. Why not use a proper centralized chat with actual retention and encryption?
TeleMessage Explorer: a new open source research tool
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#12I don’t understand the value proposition of TeleMessage. Uses Signal but defeats the point of using Signal. Why not use a proper centralized chat with actual retention and encryption?
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#14I don’t understand the value proposition of TeleMessage. Uses Signal but defeats the point of using Signal. Why not use a proper centralized chat with actual retention and encryption?
Like it might legitimately be the case that you personally have expended more brainpower trying to understand the decision than they put into making it.
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#16I don’t understand the value proposition of TeleMessage. Uses Signal but defeats the point of using Signal. Why not use a proper centralized chat with actual retention and encryption?
You might be subject to compliance requirements for archival but also want to talk to other people who use signal.
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#18I don’t understand the value proposition of TeleMessage. Uses Signal but defeats the point of using Signal. Why not use a proper centralized chat with actual retention and encryption?
Signal is essentially iMessage that works in Android for all intents. Supporting it lets you communicate with outside entities. Otherwise the only mechanism to do so is email, which is problematic at best.
Government and finance are required by law to archive and audit communications. Some companies do anyway to keep tabs on staff.
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#19I don’t understand the value proposition of TeleMessage. Uses Signal but defeats the point of using Signal. Why not use a proper centralized chat with actual retention and encryption?
Now, such a system could be set up to route those copied messages in a separately E2E-encrypted way to the client's in-house/on-prem archival systems, and have the client be responsible for implementing decryption and secure storage at rest. But it's far easier to just sell a centralized cloud-based archival/retrieval system - which must necessarily be able to decrypt messages, and thus makes for an incredibly juicy target.
Given the supply-chain risks of the provider offering the customized clients anyways, one would expect them to have a strong security focus... but it certainly seems this was not the case.
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#20Earlier quoted context omitted.
You might be subject to compliance requirements for archival but also want to talk to other people who use signal.
For example DC Police may have confidential informants who would be best to use Signal because that isn't unusual. But the people there are communicating need to retain the communication.