What kind of cables do you need to connect to your 10Gb switch/router? Do you need glassfiber?
I run 10g-base-t over cat5e. I think the standard says cat6, but the nics can't read the markings on the cable :p
Realtek's $10 tiny 10GbE NIC will hit motherboards soon
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Re: Realtek's $10 tiny 10GbE NIC will hit motherboards soon
#12I don’t understand this article! PC motherboards with 10GbE ports have existed for years in premium offerings? Is this notably cheaper than the current chip they use? pcpartpicker shows ~89 such boards, with mid-high level pricing: https://pcpartpicker.com/products/motherboard/#c0=2x10000-2x...
With such a low price point, it will creep into regular, non-prosumer hardware.
Re: Realtek's $10 tiny 10GbE NIC will hit motherboards soon
#13I don’t understand this article! PC motherboards with 10GbE ports have existed for years in premium offerings? Is this notably cheaper than the current chip they use? pcpartpicker shows ~89 such boards, with mid-high level pricing: https://pcpartpicker.com/products/motherboard/#c0=2x10000-2x...
With such a low price point, it will creep into regular, non-prosumer hardware.
But $10 is not a cheap price point - if it's a component on a motherboard, it really needs to be sub 25 cents in 10k volume orders before motherboard manufacturers start shoving it into mid level boards just to have one more bullet point on the spec sheet of a motherboard which sells for $50.
Re: Realtek's $10 tiny 10GbE NIC will hit motherboards soon
#14Oh my god can you please just use normal SFP+ already.
SFP+ is not a good choice for a consumer device.
From a physical pov it’s not rated for anywhere near as many mating cycles and requires user care to protect against environmental damage.
From a connectivity pov you’re limited to short runs for DAC or extra cost to add a transceiver on each side.
Re: Realtek's $10 tiny 10GbE NIC will hit motherboards soon
#15I don’t understand this article! PC motherboards with 10GbE ports have existed for years in premium offerings? Is this notably cheaper than the current chip they use? pcpartpicker shows ~89 such boards, with mid-high level pricing: https://pcpartpicker.com/products/motherboard/#c0=2x10000-2x...
The article shows an add-in board and says it's $10.
If that's retail price, it's not much more than a 1G add-in nic. That gives it potential for mass adoption.
Realtek also makes some low cost 10g and 2.5g/10g switch chips that are reasonable cost if you shop on aliexpress.
Having another vendor should help drive down retail pricing as well.
Re: Realtek's $10 tiny 10GbE NIC will hit motherboards soon
#16Oh my god can you please just use normal SFP+ already.
SFP+ is not a good choice for a consumer device. From a physical pov it’s not rated for anywhere near as many mating cycles and requires user care to protect against environmental damage. From a connectivity pov you’re limited to short runs for DAC or extra cost to add a transceiver on each side.
Consumers don't need to detach/attach the actual modules. They can just plug in their ethernet cables like normal, except they'd also have the option to switch to something better in the long run.
It's more expensive but hardly an impossible fit. My router comes with an SFP+ port on the fiber side, it's just not labeled as such.
Combining SFP+ with fiber in consumer spaces is going to be more of a challenge (although I'll gladly accept it if it somehow makes it to market somehow).
Re: Realtek's $10 tiny 10GbE NIC will hit motherboards soon
#17Earlier quoted context omitted.
With such a low price point, it will creep into regular, non-prosumer hardware.
But $10 is not a cheap price point - if it's a component on a motherboard, it really needs to be sub 25 cents in 10k volume orders before motherboard manufacturers start shoving it into mid level boards just to have one more bullet point on the spec sheet of a motherboard which sells for $50.
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Re: Realtek's $10 tiny 10GbE NIC will hit motherboards soon
#18> and while the company still sells the AQC107 silicon, it is quite expensive for motherboard integration, and add-on cards are, by definitio,n more expensive than integrated solutions. Not sure what a 10GbE motherboard would cost today, but in 2022 I bought ASUS ProArt X570 (1x 10GbE + 1x 2.5GbE) for ~400 EUR, and just the other day I got the Asus XG-C100C (1x 10GbE) network adapter for another machine for ~80 EUR.…
Aside from the cost, ACQ107 is not very reliable in my experience. I have one that randomly drops the connection every now and then, even at sub-10Gbps speeds. Switching to a different NIC makes everything rock stable.
In my experience (Im running several of these) thats down to heat.
I redid the thermal paste on my cards and haven't had any issues since.
Re: Realtek's $10 tiny 10GbE NIC will hit motherboards soon
#19I don’t understand this article! PC motherboards with 10GbE ports have existed for years in premium offerings? Is this notably cheaper than the current chip they use? pcpartpicker shows ~89 such boards, with mid-high level pricing: https://pcpartpicker.com/products/motherboard/#c0=2x10000-2x...
The article shows an add-in board and says it's $10. If that's retail price, it's not much more than a 1G add-in nic. That gives it potential for mass adoption. Realtek also makes some low cost 10g and 2.5g/10g switch chips that are reasonable cost if you shop on aliexpress. Having another vendor should help drive down retail pricing as well.
The article contradicts itself. The text says that the chip will be sold for $10. The headline says the board will be sold for $10.
Generally editors write headlines while the journalist writes the text, so when they conflict, the headline is usually wrong.
A $10 retail price for a board would be a big deal.
A $10 wholesale price for a chip is not news.
Re: Realtek's $10 tiny 10GbE NIC will hit motherboards soon
#20Oh my god can you please just use normal SFP+ already.
On an ATX motherboard, SFP cages would impede into the space normally taken up by VRMs, their heatsinks, and the CPU socket. For a built in NIC, on consumer boards, an RJ45 port takes up way less space, no more than the USB ports and WiFi card does at the back of the board.