I use React or vanilla js or server side rendering or all three together, depending what the situation requires.
I found this website aggressive and not funny.
Just Fucking Use React
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#12Why not Vue? Unlike React it doesn't recalculate everything on every mouse move event. Also I would like something that doesn't require to install Node.JS and unly packer like Webpack which invents its proprietary syntax instead of using standard EcmaScript. I like to make small apps that I run by clicking on HTML file and I don't have time to go to console and install things or type commands just to open a webpage.
The article says "use React (or Vue, or Svelte, or Angular if you're a masochist - the point is a modern framework"
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#13This style of abrasive language works best when promoting the simple thing. Like Grug brain, etc. You use simple language to show how little thought is needed to get to the good stuff.
Each of the many paragraphs here requires thought to understand. That's React for you.
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#14"sometimes, complexity is not a choice, it's a fucking requirement."
Complexity is never a requirement, and almost always self-inflicted.
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#15So, I should just use vanilla JavaScript? Well if you say so.
Actually data-binding UIs (UIs that automatically update themselves when model variable changes) allow to do more in less time. So you just spend more time to reach the same result.
For example, I don't want to use non-reactive UIs (like vanilla JS or GTK) anymore. And it's sad to see that many (or maybe even most of) open-source projects still manually write code to update the UI and lose time on this. It's like trying to build a house using ancient tools.
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#16> Try building a dashboard with a dozen filters, real-time updates from ten different sources, user preferences that change everything, and collaborative editing where five assholes are mashing keys at once. Your "simple" JavaScript will turn into a spaghetti monster that'll make Cthulhu look like a fucking Teletubby having a tea party.
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#17I use React or vanilla js or server side rendering or all three together, depending what the situation requires. I found this website aggressive and not funny.
Bear in mind that this is a response to another website: https://justfuckingusehtml.com/
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#18I'm waiting for an article entitled: "Just Use X" Considered Harmful. The Web is complex (i.e. has many parts) because it is meant to satisfy a very wide range of needs. Most websites use WordPress, because that's an especially easy option to host, configure, and add/update content. But "Just Use WordPress" would be nonsense; a lot of people need more (e.g. Google Maps) or less (e.g. static personal pages) than what WordPress is appropriate for.
I know, I'll write an article entitled "Just Fucking Use C, You Yellow-bellied Sapsuckers". It'll be about using good-old CGI with C. Imagine a web framework in C, which generates HTML, CSS, and JS. It'll be sleek, easy-to-deploy, portable, fast, and you can optimize to your heart's content. Plus, it will future-proof your career, because your boss will make you spend a chunk of your career re-writing it in Rust: CGI + Rust is the future that nobody is aware of (read: dreading) yet.
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#19Why not Vue? Unlike React it doesn't recalculate everything on every mouse move event. Also I would like something that doesn't require to install Node.JS and unly packer like Webpack which invents its proprietary syntax instead of using standard EcmaScript. I like to make small apps that I run by clicking on HTML file and I don't have time to go to console and install things or type commands just to open a webpage.
> Unlike React it doesn't recalculate everything on every mouse move event.
Where did you ever get the idea react does this?
Re: Just Fucking Use React
#20Why not Vue? Unlike React it doesn't recalculate everything on every mouse move event. Also I would like something that doesn't require to install Node.JS and unly packer like Webpack which invents its proprietary syntax instead of using standard EcmaScript. I like to make small apps that I run by clicking on HTML file and I don't have time to go to console and install things or type commands just to open a webpage.
> Unlike React it doesn't recalculate everything on every mouse move event. Where did you ever get the idea react does this?
The react's algorithm of detecting changes is based on rebuilding a Virtual DOM tree (i.e. recalculating all components) and comparing that tree to the previous one. It is done, as I understand, every time someone calls update() or similar method on a component.
So React won't cause performance issues only if you have few model variables or manually optimize the code by using immutable data structures (which have their own performance issues) and pure components.
For comparison, Vue detects changing by wrapping all model variables with proxies and linking them to UI components that use them. This has an advantage of not having to recalculate everything and disadvantage of having an overhead for using proxies and creating a dependency graph. Also, having to deal with proxies adds more pain for the programmer.