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Stack Overflow is almost dead

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Re: Stack Overflow is almost dead

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post #7

It looks like Stackoverflow was already in a decline even before Covid. I wonder what developers started using during that time.

They still used it, they just didn't contribute. It's not that StackOverflow is useless, but rather that it already answers most questions.

Re: Stack Overflow is almost dead

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My heart goes to the stack overflow community which has always been very kind and helpful, essentially working for free. As a self-taught developer since the age of 8, I literally grew up learning how to code through SO, asking hundreds of questions and answering many more. So many bugs that would take 2-3 days to fix would eventually find their answer through it. But now ChatGPT does that in minutes… so it’s for the best!

Re: Stack Overflow is almost dead

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post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

AI just stole all its content, I wonder if they will choose to sue.

Stack overflow never owned the content, it is and was Creative Commons: https://stackoverflow.com/help/licensing

That license comes with obligations that the AI companies aren't following.

Re: Stack Overflow is almost dead

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post #9

I find it interesting that the current StackOverflow moderators tend to say "in the past we used to accept too many questions but it was never the goal, so now we are doing it as it was meant to be". Sure, but in the past, StackOverflow was growing, and now it's dying. Maybe something was better before, when "it was not done correctly"?

AFAICR they've always said these lines about now is about better moderation from the slop. The reality is that the rule of thumb for that moderation was already out of date with advances that preceeded LLMs.. Even with the beginnings of computer aided flows we didn't need to alienate most to get the best content and develop the few. Content can be triaged from someone who may be human to others who may be human and maybe there's value or maybe you just didn't alienate anyone and some people will still climb to making higher levels of content that is worth condensing.

Re: Stack Overflow is almost dead

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post #11
post #7

It looks like Stackoverflow was already in a decline even before Covid. I wonder what developers started using during that time.

They still used it, they just didn't contribute. It's not that StackOverflow is useless, but rather that it already answers most questions.

That, and genuinely new questions get aggressively shut down.

Re: Stack Overflow is almost dead

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Doesn't feel like the AI is the main driver. Many things changed over time - dev tools got better, editors got smarter, compilers got better error messages, various primary resources improved, tutorial websites, courses and youtube boomed. Another point of course is that each new question is more and more likely to be already answered. At some point the site pretty much covers most of what is to be answered.

> Another point of course is that each new question is more and more likely to be already answered. At some point the site pretty much covers most of what is to be answered.

AI has the ability combine answers from multiple sources and tailor-make to your exact prompt details. Now that is something we call glove fits the hand. Plus it can explain its answers.

Re: Stack Overflow is almost dead

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post #2

The timing on the sale was genius. Similar to Mark Cuban with Broadcast.com. I guess it's best to sell something before the value plummets to 0. As far as its demise? AI ate its lunch. I use to use Stack Overflow all the time and haven't even gone to the site for a couple of years now.

Where's the AI of tomorrow going to learn from if nobody is posting Q&As online anymore?

Re: Stack Overflow is almost dead

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My heart goes to the stack overflow community which has always been very kind and helpful, essentially working for free. As a self-taught developer since the age of 8, I literally grew up learning how to code through SO, asking hundreds of questions and answering many more. So many bugs that would take 2-3 days to fix would eventually find their answer through it. But now ChatGPT does that in minutes… so it’s for the…

Closing this as its a statement not a question

Re: Stack Overflow is almost dead

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Doesn't feel like the AI is the main driver. Many things changed over time - dev tools got better, editors got smarter, compilers got better error messages, various primary resources improved, tutorial websites, courses and youtube boomed. Another point of course is that each new question is more and more likely to be already answered. At some point the site pretty much covers most of what is to be answered.

One aspect I haven’t seen anyone mention contributing to the decline is GitHub (part of your “improved tooling”)

These days you can go to the repo and there’s usually already an issue open with the problem and a workaround. Or if someone has a question on how to use the tool/software they ask there.

Before GH boomed it was often SO doing this job.

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