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RybbitL Open source Google Analytics replacement

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Re: RybbitL Open source Google Analytics replacement

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Post by kevin_thibedeau »

keerthiko wrote: post #7
AndrewStephens wrote: post #3

The documentation states that rybbit does not use cookies and is compliant with the GDPR. The first part is true but, looking at the code (very nice to have it available), the tracking is done by IP address, trading one piece of tracking data for another. I realize that this is probably the only way it could work but it is not clear to me that tracking by IP address (even over a single session and shredding the data…

If the IP address is hashed somehow it would no longer be personally identifying while still being unique enough for analytics purposes, correct? Does geographic grouping data depend on the IP address? If so I suppose it would need to be extracted first before hashing the IP, and I wonder how much that weakens the anonymization.

You can hash every IPV4 for a rainbow table. Needs some salt.

Re: RybbitL Open source Google Analytics replacement

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Post by dylan604 »

Apreche wrote: post #9

For me, the best Google analytics replacement has been nothing. Just don’t do analytics at all. Your web site will still work without it. In fact, it will work better!

That's just not realistic though. People with marketing departments need analytics. Otherwise, they atrophy and reveal to everyone they are not as necessary as led to believe. People without marketing departments probably never look at the logs like you.

Re: RybbitL Open source Google Analytics replacement

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Post by dylan604 »

kevin_thibedeau wrote: post #11
keerthiko wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If the IP address is hashed somehow it would no longer be personally identifying while still being unique enough for analytics purposes, correct? Does geographic grouping data depend on the IP address? If so I suppose it would need to be extracted first before hashing the IP, and I wonder how much that weakens the anonymization.

You can hash every IPV4 for a rainbow table. Needs some salt.

Okay, but that doesn't mean the concept is bad.

Re: RybbitL Open source Google Analytics replacement

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Post by jsheard »

dylan604 wrote: post #15
Apreche wrote: post #9

For me, the best Google analytics replacement has been nothing. Just don’t do analytics at all. Your web site will still work without it. In fact, it will work better!

That's just not realistic though. People with marketing departments need analytics. Otherwise, they atrophy and reveal to everyone they are not as necessary as led to believe. People without marketing departments probably never look at the logs like you.

True, but for personal/hobby sites you probably are just better off just not knowing. Nothing good comes of tying your self-worth to how much attention you think you're getting.

Re: RybbitL Open source Google Analytics replacement

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Post by nm980 »

The market for Google Analytics alternatives is crowded. There's Plausible, Ahrefs web analytics, onedollarstats.com, PostHog, Matomo, Unami, Grafana, Microsoft Clarity (free at any scale), and so many others. Despite minor differences these products all compete for the same users (e.g. if someone is a PostHog customer they probably won't be using Ahref web analytics) yet most of these companies offer generous free tiers while rybbit only a free trial.

How do products like rybbit.io stay competitive without a similar free tier or major differentiation? Is rybbit generating revenue for its hosted plan?

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