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Databricks in talks to acquire startup Neon for about $1B

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Re: Databricks in talks to acquire startup Neon for about $1B

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Why would this give you pause? You just don't want the data to be where Databricks is? Either way, there are plenty of other serverless Postgres options out there, Supabase being one of the most popular.

Can’t speak for anyone but myself and my experience anecdotally, having used Databricks: I consider them to be the Oracle of the modern era. Under no circumstances would I let them get their hooks into any company I have the power from preventing it.

Why do think so? Databricks notebook product I have used in couple of companies is pretty solid. I have done any google research but they are generally known to be very high talent dense kind of place to work.

Re: Databricks in talks to acquire startup Neon for about $1B

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Ok, can we just. How is Databricks an AI unicorn exactly?

Enterprises have lots of data. They store it somewhere, and there are multiple vendors that provide such "credible" infrastructure for this type of storage. Think of it like, your dad says he's willing to get a dog, but only trusts these-five-animal-shelters and nothing else. That doesn't mean that's correct (that those are the only places to get a dog), it just means that's what he trusts. Databricks is most likely a unicorn because they have successfully sold the idea that they are one of those trusted vendors, like Snowflake.

The truth of the 2010s up until now is that every startup was a massive sales con job. The wealth of this industry is not truly built on incredible tech, but on the audacity of salesmanship. It's a billion-dollar con job. That's one of the reasons I take every ridiculous startup that launches quite seriously, because you have no idea just how audacious their sales people are. They can sell anything.

Your question is very fundamental, and the answer is just as raw and fundamental too. I would love it if some of these sales people actually reform and write tell-alls about how they conned so many large companies in their years of working. This content has got to be out there somewhere.

Re: Databricks in talks to acquire startup Neon for about $1B

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Can’t speak for anyone but myself and my experience anecdotally, having used Databricks: I consider them to be the Oracle of the modern era. Under no circumstances would I let them get their hooks into any company I have the power from preventing it.

Why do think so? Databricks notebook product I have used in couple of companies is pretty solid. I have done any google research but they are generally known to be very high talent dense kind of place to work.

You and the parent are not talking about the same things.

Re: Databricks in talks to acquire startup Neon for about $1B

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Can’t speak for anyone but myself and my experience anecdotally, having used Databricks: I consider them to be the Oracle of the modern era. Under no circumstances would I let them get their hooks into any company I have the power from preventing it.

Why do think so? Databricks notebook product I have used in couple of companies is pretty solid. I have done any google research but they are generally known to be very high talent dense kind of place to work.

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Re: Databricks in talks to acquire startup Neon for about $1B

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Wow, $1B. I've been bullish on neon for a while -- the idea hits exactly the right spot, IMO, and their execution looks good in my limited experience. But I mean that from a technical perspective. I never have any real idea about the business -- do they have an edge that makes people want to start paying them money and keep paying them money? Heck if I know. I guess that's going to be Databricks problem now (maybe).

Actual revenue is irrelevant. This is a business decision to corner the market.

Re: Databricks in talks to acquire startup Neon for about $1B

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I don't think being cheaper is the main value sell of serverless. When I hear "serverless" I think "ease of deployment and automatic scaling".

Right but ultimately that's a cost thing, right? Because you can solve those problems through other means and by hiring internally. Serverless is meant to obviate some of that. But it is less compelling when the vendor tries to gobble up that margin for themselves.

You will all forced to go serverless because new grads can't use the command line. Running a database is about the hardest thing you can do. If it is serverless, you don't need special skills, preventing employees from becoming valuable lowers costs across the board.

Re: Databricks in talks to acquire startup Neon for about $1B

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Databricks is trying hard to get into serverless, but it seems like they refuse to allow it to actually be cheaper, which defeats the purpose of serverless.

I had an interview with a senior data engineering candidate and we were talking about how expensive Databricks can get. :D I set up specific budget alerts in Azure just for Databricks resources in DEV and PROD environments.

Re: Databricks in talks to acquire startup Neon for about $1B

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I've been seriously considering neon for a new application. This definitely gives me pause... maybe plain ol' Postgres is going to be the winner for me again.

Why would this give you pause? You just don't want the data to be where Databricks is? Either way, there are plenty of other serverless Postgres options out there, Supabase being one of the most popular.

Supabase, while a great product, does not offer serverless Postgress.

Re: Databricks in talks to acquire startup Neon for about $1B

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Why would this give you pause? You just don't want the data to be where Databricks is? Either way, there are plenty of other serverless Postgres options out there, Supabase being one of the most popular.

Supabase, while a great product, does not offer serverless Postgress.

What would you say they offer then if not serverless Postgres?

You set up a database, you connect to it, they take care of the rest. It even scales to $0 if you don't use it.

Is that not serverless Postgres?

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