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No Instagram, no privacy

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Re: No Instagram, no privacy

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Post by johnklos »

People who know me know that even though I'm very public (my handle and my email address are my name, for instance), I care about privacy, and therefore it's unacceptable to post abount me on corporate social media without asking permission, just as they also know to not name or tag me.

People who post without asking don't know me well enough to name or tag me, so I don't care.

If someone posted and named / tagged me without asking, I'd have a serious conversation with them about it.

We need to stop acting like others' ignorance gives them an excuse to do things we don't want. "But everyone does it" is bull, and we're doing people a disservice when we let things slide because of that.

Re: No Instagram, no privacy

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Post by alwa »

firefoxd wrote: post #6

The social etiquette argument has been thrown away with the bath water. You are now the weirdo with something to hide when you are not on Instagram or Tiktok. The term I like is Social Cooling, the subtle way in which people change their behavior because they are both present in person and online. Have you ever heard some use the term "unalive" in person? It's as if they are protecting themselves from an algorithm, a…

Have you had that experience, of being taken as a weirdo? We may move in very different circles, but when I ask to be left out of social media posts I’m always met with respect and understanding, at least to my face.

If anything, in recent years, I’m met with something closer to the respect people afford recovering addicts turning down drinks: “oh man, I wish I were off of it too, good for you.”

Re: No Instagram, no privacy

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Post by wouterjanl »

paxys wrote: post #4

"I went on a weekend trip and didn't invite friend A, so I hope friend B keeps it a secret and doesn't tell anyone I was there" is the kind of social dynamic that people grow out of in high school. If you are having trouble with it as an adult then it isn't really Instagram's fault. People talk to each other and share stuff, and sometimes they talk about you, both online and offline. Just live your life without being…

Good points! Totally agree that people care less than you think, and it’s very healthy to live your life without thinking you have to please everyone all the time. The nuance I tried to make, but I was perhaps not really clear, is that when people talk with each other, people have the chance to make sure a message comes across so that it does not offend a person. That chance for nuance is lost when people post on social media. Not that people do it deliberately, it’s just that social media is designed to be focused on the poster rather than on how that message makes certain people in the audience feel. And I do believe people are bothered not to offend someone, and that they are less likely to do so when you actually talk.

Re: No Instagram, no privacy

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Post by mjevans »

Should it be allowed / legal to 'tag' people that are not part of a service?

I might agree that 'celebrities' and leaders of larger organizations are 'public figures' and thus if there's a reasonable public interest it should be allowed to tag them, probably with a publishing delay for security.

However individuals? Random citizens who aren't part of a platform and cannot manage their data? IMO the default should be deny data collection and do not profile.

Re: No Instagram, no privacy

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Post by steveBK123 »

One of my "its probably time to quit IG" moments prior to quitting 3 years involved being on a condo board.

A resident sent a petition asking for a variance from the bylaws, and part of the pitch was "well I saw XYZ on your IG so I thought you'd approve of this".

Uhh thanks, rejected.. blocked on IG, quit IG, bye.

Re: No Instagram, no privacy

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Post by simiones »

mjevans wrote: post #14

Should it be allowed / legal to 'tag' people that are not part of a service? I might agree that 'celebrities' and leaders of larger organizations are 'public figures' and thus if there's a reasonable public interest it should be allowed to tag them, probably with a publishing delay for security. However individuals? Random citizens who aren't part of a platform and cannot manage their data? IMO the default should be…

I don't think the problem raised in the article is limited to tagging. Friend A can recognize me in a picture from friend B regardless of whether I'm tagged there or not.

Then again, this is a pretty obscure problem, or more of a "problem".

Re: No Instagram, no privacy

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Post by AndriyKunitsyn »

igor47 wrote: post #2

i've thought the same thing about email. i run my own email server, so i'm one of a very few number of people whose email is opaque to gmail. on the other hand -- almost everyone i exchange email with uses gmail, so actually gmail has almost all my email anyway.

Did you have any problems with Gmail not trusting your server and moving your letters to spam?

Re: No Instagram, no privacy

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Post by [deleted] »

elAhmo wrote: post #5

It is perfectly valid and fine thing to say to someone, as an adult, that you don't want to be a part of their stories on social media. If they don't respect that, you need a new set of friends.

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Re: No Instagram, no privacy

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Post by mrweasel »

mjevans wrote: post #14

Should it be allowed / legal to 'tag' people that are not part of a service? I might agree that 'celebrities' and leaders of larger organizations are 'public figures' and thus if there's a reasonable public interest it should be allowed to tag them, probably with a publishing delay for security. However individuals? Random citizens who aren't part of a platform and cannot manage their data? IMO the default should be…

What happens if you don't have an Instagram account, write to them and demand that they take down images of you, or provide you with all the images you appear in? Some level of this seems to be provided for by the GDPR and the EUs right to be forgotten.
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