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On Not Carrying a Camera – Cultivating memories instead of snapshots

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Re: On Not Carrying a Camera – Cultivating memories instead of snapshots

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Post by planck_tonne »

There must be a balance.

Recently I met some people that were constantly filming and taking pictures of everything. It was ridiculous IMO, for the same reasons OP mentions.

This is not new. For me, it began with the rise of the smartphone. So I made it a point not to waste my time photographing things.

10 years later, I regret having essentially no pictures of anything. In particular, no "good" or "frameable" pictures (blurry pictures from funny angles don't count...). Especially from important moments. Yes, I was there living the moment. But with a picture, I could relive it for a bit.

It's not hard to find the balance, though, I guess. You don't have to constantly be filming everything. Maybe just get the group together for one picture at the end of the event and that's it. Good enough.

That's what'll I try from now on at least. Report back in 10 years...

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Post by stego-tech »

sivers wrote: post #5

I’d always wanted to go to Korea. I was so excited. I set out to explore and forgot my phone in the hotel. I walked around Seoul for twelve hours that day and experienced so many wonderful things. I remember them all vividly now, years later, but I have no photos of it. It was a relief to not document everything. I appreciated everything as a one-step process instead of a two-step process. I could just feel amazed, i…

As I prepare for my own round-the-world adventure in the year ahead, I’ve been finding myself spending more time musing on a packing list, than the destinations. The OCD wants to prepare for everything, to have anything it needs on hand and ready to go. It wants to pack my X-Pro 3 and a bevy of lenses, and a flash, and batteries, and my laptop to process it on when I get back to the hotel room, and a backup drive, and-

And then I remember that this may well be the only time in my life that I will see these places, meet these people, and try these things. That the more I bring with me, the less mental room I have to savor, enjoy, and process the world around me in those precious moments.

I’m going to bring either my X100F, or splurge on a GFX100RF. That’ll be it. No flashes, no tripods, no laptops, no international high-speed data plan. Just me, a point-and-shoot, and unlimited EDGE data for the odd GPS route.

I want to use my photographs to remind me of times gone by, traveling alone, when my memory is foggy or old age has caught up with me. I don’t want to be in photographer mode, I want to be in-the-moment mode.

Re: On Not Carrying a Camera – Cultivating memories instead of snapshots

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Post by SoftTalker »

I actually took up photography as a hobby when I was a teen. Set up a darkroom and everything. Somewhere along the way in life realized I never looked at my photos. So I just stopped taking them and never really missed it. I do use my phone camera as sort of a notepad when that is handy. E.g. if I’m working on something and I want to document which parts go where, or to send to someone and ask “what is this” but I usually delete them after they’ve served their purpose.

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Post by AStonesThrow »

I've found that many special moments, excursions to special places, are best experienced exactly that way, in the moment, without fiddling with that camera app and being behind the viewfinder. In fact, look at any live footage of a large event with a V.I.P., such as a popular politician, a rock star, or the Holy Father, working the crowd of tourists. Now look at all those unfortunate people who are behind viewfinders. They are still electronically mediated, even though they're only a few inches from the very person they admire so much. Isn't it truly sad that they're struggling to get some "ShakyCam" footage that would get any newscaster fired, instead of reaching their hand out, smiling, seeing that scene unfold before their actual eyes?

Therefore there are many events where I won't bring a camera. I'll experience it as it unfolds. It's more rewarding that way. In fact, many large events are already so well-covered by a professional camera crew -- why bother? I mean, I'll just go look it up later on Facebook anyway, right?

My current exception is astrophotography; firstly possible to see bodies that are much, much fainter with the assistance of the smartphone camera. The photos reveal details I could never detect with an unassisted eye. For example, last year's big comet: I stood at an intersection to sight it, and it was invisible until I pointed my camera in that direction. And astrophotography is a nice technical means of stargazing in specific ways with a specific field of view and live time constraints. I mean, if I really want to see a huge arbitrary starfield, there are plenty of apps that can simulate it for me. But if I curate my own star photographs, I can edit them, add notes, and share them around.

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Post by kelnos »

sivers wrote: post #5

I’d always wanted to go to Korea. I was so excited. I set out to explore and forgot my phone in the hotel. I walked around Seoul for twelve hours that day and experienced so many wonderful things. I remember them all vividly now, years later, but I have no photos of it. It was a relief to not document everything. I appreciated everything as a one-step process instead of a two-step process. I could just feel amazed, i…

> I remember them all vividly now, years later, but I have no photos of it.

That's wonderful for you, but my brain doesn't work that way. My memories tend to get very fuzzy over time, and photos are a very powerful aid for me in recall. My photos of a trip with my wife to France last summer are already reminding me of details I've forgotten. I just took a trip to Japan last month, and I expect, before too long, that the same will be true of the photos I took there.

> It’s wonderful to be cut off from everywhere else — to be more fully only there.

You can take photos and still fully be there. There are many many points on the spectrum between not having a camera at all, and viewing the world through your phone's screen because you are taking photos or video of nearly everything.

> But when you use your phone, you’re everywhere. You keep in touch with friends. You hear what’s going on at home. You see the screen exactly as you do anywhere else.

It's a shame that so many people have such a bad relationship with their tech that they can't put it away. I absolutely do use my phone for mapping and navigation and other useful tasks while I'm traveling, but I tend to put it on do-not-disturb mode, and ignore it much more than I do at home. I still wander around, without a particular destination in mind, and get "lost" often enough to spontaneously run into interesting things. Sure, I'm not fully disconnected, but I don't see that as a negative.

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Post by Calwestjobs »

Computer SSD can hold more books than all books you ever saw in your life.

saw, not read, saw in movies, saw in photographs, saw in magazines. all that can fit into your SSD

So just make freaking daily journal. there is plenty of space. You will be surprised what everything you did forgot. you will be surprised how your brain worked few years back. etc etc

And computer can hold more and retrieve faster then any other mechanism.

Also most wealthy people i know have their own "CRM system", where they note contents of phone calls, meetings etc, it is even easier with current state of AI/ML transcription services. They note names of children, spouse of their business partners. Hobbies, life situations, birthdays.... and they WILL look you up, right before you enter their office for joint meeting, so they can have conversation with you...

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Post by hhthrowaway1230 »

I’m an occassional photo taker, mostly because i dont like the way i look and i suffer from mild and flaring depression at times.

However when i look back to the photos from the past im happy i took them because my memory fails me or sometimes skews things.

i am happy i have these photos.

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Post by snoman »

anonu wrote: post #2

Photographs help jog your memory. That's why I take them at least...

Some of the most valued things in my life are the photos I’ve taken and printed as they remind me of where I was, what I was doing, and who I was with.

It’s one thing to miss a moment, like the author of this article did, because you’re fiddling with a camera but it’s also a thing to capture a moment and have it forever. How many times have you shown someone a photo and they say with amazement and excitement “No way! I’d almost forgotten got about that!” - many for me.

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