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Secret Deals, Foreign Investments: The Rise of Trump’s Crypto Firm

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That is precisely the attitude that those “yokels” decided they would fully back Trump. When people are abandoned by the economic and political system, someone coming in telling them that they will get revenge, is how you get a enthusiastic supporters.

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That is precisely the attitude that those “yokels” decided they would fully back Trump. When people are abandoned by the economic and political system, someone coming in telling them that they will get revenge, is how you get a enthusiastic supporters.

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They've voted against their own interests (aka Republican) for the last 40 years and people still have the gall to be like "You can't call them stupid".

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They've voted against their own interests (aka Republican) for the last 40 years and people still have the gall to be like "You can't call them stupid".

I think most people genuinely try to find the best in other human beings but you're right. They've been doing this shit for closer to half a century, at some point you need to call a spade a spade. They're morons and they have outsized influence in the US because of how our political system works.

Fuck them.

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That's quite unfair. Trump's support cut across a wide swath of (mostly white) Americans, including educated and/or well-off coastal and Midwest voters. Many, many people who considered themselves well-informed, in the mainstream, and in their right mind, voted for him. And nothing changes until you can convince those people of the truth, which is that they screwed up.

Also, nothing changes while the wedge being driven by the powers who want a populace divide has power, on both sides.

It's by design that those splits happen, when the desk jockeys earning six-figures are seen (and a lot of times, see themselves) as a completely different caste of people than the factory workers, gig workers, etc. it sucks all the air out of the room from real issues: less fortunate people left behind, lack of opportunities, the encroaching of work precarity which will eventually turn even to the current high-earning workers. It completely erases any reasonable public discourse about the real causes of all the social malaise symptoms we experience on the day-to-day.

It's harder to give any sympathy to people voting against their best interests, they've been swindled, bamboozled, and are completely oblivious to the bamboozle, which makes it all the more frustrating. Still, at least extending some pity to their ignorance might help oneself to feel less angry (but still disappointed) about their decisions, they don't know better and it fucking sucks.

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“Under the company’s rules, the Trumps and other World Liberty investors are not allowed to sell their coins on the open market, though the company has said it might eventually lift that restriction if other buyers of the coin agree.”

I have heard this one before.

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That is precisely the attitude that those “yokels” decided they would fully back Trump. When people are abandoned by the economic and political system, someone coming in telling them that they will get revenge, is how you get a enthusiastic supporters.

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People voted Trump for different reasons. Not understanding their reasons does not make you smarter. They were not all low IQ. Ignoring a big chunk of the population because they are "racist", "bigots" and "single-digit IQ yokels" will make you loose the next election to whoever decides to listen to them instead to lecture them.

Do that multiple times and you may end-up with a dicator(or at least someone who can become a dictator) sooner or later.

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That's quite unfair. Trump's support cut across a wide swath of (mostly white) Americans, including educated and/or well-off coastal and Midwest voters. Many, many people who considered themselves well-informed, in the mainstream, and in their right mind, voted for him. And nothing changes until you can convince those people of the truth, which is that they screwed up.

Also, nothing changes while the wedge being driven by the powers who want a populace divide has power, on both sides. It's by design that those splits happen, when the desk jockeys earning six-figures are seen (and a lot of times, see themselves) as a completely different caste of people than the factory workers, gig workers, etc. it sucks all the air out of the room from real issues: less fortunate people left behin…

> Still, at least extending some pity to their ignorance might help oneself to feel less angry (but still disappointed) about their decisions, they don't know better and it fucking sucks.

The issue is that this isn't a new phenomenon. This has been happening since at least Reagan (over 40 years ago). That cross-section of America has decided to vote against their interests in every major election for decades. I'm over it.

And instead of recognizing that like normal people, they want to push the onus onto literally anything else (immigrants, trans people, higher education). Fuck that. And fuck them for continuing to want to drag us back to the stone age.

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