> 27K nodes and 230K edges This is such an overkill for that kind of data. Even if they do plan to "scale up significantly", I doubt that they'll actually experience any benefit of graph db.
Why do you say that?
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#12Memgraph is laughably expensive - I honestly wonder what anyone actually uses it for outside of companies that just don't care about infra spend.
DISCLAIMER: The co-founder and CTO of Memgraph here.
To add more context, Memgraph Enterprise pricing is explained under https://memgraph.com/pricing: "Starting at $25,000 per year for 16 GB, Memgraph has an all-inclusive, simple pricing model that scales with your workload without restrictions. No charge for compute. No charge for replicas. No charge for algorithms. No Surprises.".
In addition, Memgraph Community is free (standard BSL license, which turns into Apache2 4 years after release date, https://github.com/memgraph/memgraph/blob/master/licenses/BS...), and it has many features that are usually considered enterprise (users, replication, not a single degradation in performance or scale, etc.).
Please elaborate more about why the pricing seems expensive, or put it into the infra-cost perspective :pray:
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#14I know it’s a marketing case study, but:
> Ever wondered how NASA identifies its top experts, forms high-performing teams, and plans for the skills of tomorrow?
Here’s another resource on that https://appel.nasa.gov/2010/02/18/aa_2-7_f_nasa_teams-html/ the book “How NASA Builds Teams: Mission Critical Soft Skills for Scientists, Engineers, and Project Teams”
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#15> It’s [sql] just not built for the complex relationships that exist in a massive organizations like NASA. This is an absurd claim. > Extracted Skills from Team Resumes > Extracted Skills > Subject Matter Experts Finder Question: designed to identify employees with expertise in specific domains or mission-critical capabilities. I can't think of anything that screams "incompetent management" more than this. So, to fin…
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#16> It’s [sql] just not built for the complex relationships that exist in a massive organizations like NASA. This is an absurd claim. > Extracted Skills from Team Resumes > Extracted Skills > Subject Matter Experts Finder Question: designed to identify employees with expertise in specific domains or mission-critical capabilities. I can't think of anything that screams "incompetent management" more than this. So, to fin…
This is like saying: "Here we have a rocket, but let's keep trying to go to the moon by bike." xD
What's wrong with attempting to better understand a given organization using LLMs or any other tech? Ofc, great managers will try as hard as possible to talk face to face as much as possible.
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#17> It’s [sql] just not built for the complex relationships that exist in a massive organizations like NASA. This is an absurd claim. > Extracted Skills from Team Resumes > Extracted Skills > Subject Matter Experts Finder Question: designed to identify employees with expertise in specific domains or mission-critical capabilities. I can't think of anything that screams "incompetent management" more than this. So, to fin…
This is like saying: "Here we have a rocket, but let's keep trying to go to the moon by bike." xD What's wrong with attempting to better understand a given organization using LLMs or any other tech? Ofc, great managers will try as hard as possible to talk face to face as much as possible.
> This is like saying:
I highly doubt the difference between current staff management and adding this thin layer is equivalent to difference between a bike and a rocket. It's more like saying "we get to the moon just fine, but if we strap this extra booster on, we will get there 2% faster than before but with all kinds of additional risks to the payload!"
> What's wrong with attempting to better understand a given organization
You can alienate your employees and lose your skill base as a result. I'd like to be evaluated based on upon my work and dedication, not what some LLM thinks it sees in my resume. I've worked for my current company for 17 years. My resume contains none of that work or any skills gained in that time.
I also like to take on new challenges and learn new skills. The LLMs "extractions" cannot see this or attend to it.
> Ofc, great managers will try as hard as possible to talk face to face as much as possible.
That's not the problem being discussed here. The question is "can we use technology to make better organizational decisions particularly when it comes to the efficient use of human resources." If I have a bad boss, I'm going to quit, and you'll never even have this opportunity. If I have a good boss, and you interfere with his decisions using LLM driven logic, I'm going to quit, and you're never going to get the benefit of that labor anyways.
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#18I think I found a place Dodge can save some money. Memgraph pricing is ridiculous.
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#19> The current graph has about 27K nodes and 230K edges
That is tiny even by historical standards. I was expecting there to be some type of technology here. Why is this interesting?
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#20> It’s [sql] just not built for the complex relationships that exist in a massive organizations like NASA. This is an absurd claim. > Extracted Skills from Team Resumes > Extracted Skills > Subject Matter Experts Finder Question: designed to identify employees with expertise in specific domains or mission-critical capabilities. I can't think of anything that screams "incompetent management" more than this. So, to fin…
It doesn't seem like it is intended for a manager to use to get information about their direct reports, but rather org-wide information?
NASA apparently has ~18k employees, it seems like it might be useful to be able to query "Who at NASA has X, Y, Z skills that can help us with this project." Then you can speak to some of those people face-to-face. It won't be perfect but certainly sounds like a useful tool in principle.