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Re: Still standing

#12
post #9

being starved of money for years by advertisers, payment providers, and service providers Given the language in this announcement that lays blame at everyone else's feet except the people responsible for maintaining the platform, I'm pretty sure that no lessons were learned, and that the security is not likely to improve beyond whatever bandaids that were needed to address this hack.

So…it sounds like typical 4chan?

Re: Still standing

#13
post #9

being starved of money for years by advertisers, payment providers, and service providers Given the language in this announcement that lays blame at everyone else's feet except the people responsible for maintaining the platform, I'm pretty sure that no lessons were learned, and that the security is not likely to improve beyond whatever bandaids that were needed to address this hack.

Even when talking about themselves in the article they mostly focus on some hardware server business.

In software outdated dependencies are vulnerabilities. The tech leadership knew this tradeoff and closed their eyes and hoped they'd get to it before someone else did. They did not and you shouldn't expect to be able to either.

If you do not have the resources to support the continual, ongoing updating of a dep, you do not the resources to add said dep.

Re: Still standing

#14
Imaging dedicating hundreds or thousands of unpaid hours of your life to protect and preserve what amounts to a truck stop toilet. What a total fucking waste.

They should, in fact, give up and use the time for literally anything else.

Re: Still standing

#15
post #4

4chan is controversial and often very ugly, but it is one of the few old school message boards that allows free speech left. Like the ACLU used to do, we should help them stay online and exercising their free speech, even if it is annoying and gross.

As a long time ACLU financial supporter, I could not disagree more. 4chan is not and never was a bastion of free speech. Comparing 4chan to the ACLU is like comparing a toddler smearing shit on a wall to art. To practice free speech requires an intent to express a point of view. 4chan had to point of view and was just a shithole.

Re: Still standing

#16
>One slow but much beloved board, /f/ - Flash, will not be returning however, as there is no realistic way to prevent similar exploits using .swf files.

Wow, this is a pretty incredible level of incompetence. Server-side SWF exploits are easily mitigated, unless they are using some sort of server-side SWF interpreter, which is absolutely not needed if you implement client-side Ruffle (or just require people to install the browser extension).

They can complain all they want that advertisers and payment processors refuse to work with them, but it's clear that no competent engineers want to work with them either if they're saying stuff like this.

Re: Still standing

#17
post #2

One of the pillars of the old, non-infested-by-normies Internet, still stands. Good news.

Keeping a website that has openly catered to pedophiles and nazis online is hardly "good news", unless you are a pedophile or a nazi.

It won't matter for long though. The userbase has had its trust shattered, and this blogpost makes it clear that 4chan has no ability to defend itself from future attacks, which are absolutely coming.

Re: Still standing

#18
Does 4chan contain anything worth checking nowadays?

I remember visiting the site as a teenager to check rage comics, and even for the abrasion of the internet of the time it was too shocking for anything beyond an occasional look - random gore, pictures of underage girls, racist tirades and the like.

I know some people enjoy that Wild West, lack of rules environment for some reason, but is there any content that’s worth it for those who don’t?

Re: Still standing

#19
post #4

4chan is controversial and often very ugly, but it is one of the few old school message boards that allows free speech left. Like the ACLU used to do, we should help them stay online and exercising their free speech, even if it is annoying and gross.

Absolutely not. Free speech exists just fine on the Internet, evidenced by the fact that a site like 4chan is capable of existing in the first place. We don't have to financially support repulsive communities just to protect their ability to exist.

If 4chan were taken down by government action, I might be inclined to speak up for them in some capacity, as I don't consider that anything 4chan is currently doing illegal, but that's not the situation here. If 4chan dies because it's a poorly-managed shithole with no allies, then we can and should let it die, and rest easy knowing that it wasn't censored, it collapsed under it's own debt.

Re: Still standing

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Does 4chan contain anything worth checking nowadays? I remember visiting the site as a teenager to check rage comics, and even for the abrasion of the internet of the time it was too shocking for anything beyond an occasional look - random gore, pictures of underage girls, racist tirades and the like. I know some people enjoy that Wild West, lack of rules environment for some reason, but is there any content that’s w…

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