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I wrote a book called “Crap Towns”. It seemed funny at the time

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Re: I wrote a book called “Crap Towns”. It seemed funny at the time

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In my experience there are only a few cities in the U.S that literate people are proud enough to live in, that they would be insulted that you put that into your crap town book. Thus I wonder what demographic that at one time would have bought this book is not going to be buying this book now.

Considering the book is about "crap towns" in the UK, I imagine it could be a very different demographic than the one you're thinking of

Re: I wrote a book called “Crap Towns”. It seemed funny at the time

#13
If you're about to write a diatrabe about the harms of political correctness or scold the writer on inventing a victimhood complex for themselves, please read the ending of the OP:

> Much as I’d like to, I can’t just blame the puritans if my old jokes don’t work any more. Nor can I claim that the Crap Towns books were an unqualified success

[...]

> before closing, I should admit that there is a more straightforward answer to the question of whether you can still get away with doing something like Crap Towns.

> That answer is: yes. There’s a website (I won’t link to it) that has kept on running a survey of the worst places in the UK for years and years- and, honestly, when I look at it, I hate it. Partly because I feel like they’re ripping off my project, but mainly because when I read the comments on there about incels and chavs and carbuncles and brutalism it all just seems grubby. Maybe even cruel.

> I could argue that I don’t like this website because their approach and criteria are different to mine - and I hope there would be some truth in that. But I also know that I now also just react against the whole thing. It’s been done. It’s grown stale. It doesn’t fit - especially since so much has changed around it. In short, the world has moved on. And maybe that’s not such a bad thing?

Re: I wrote a book called “Crap Towns”. It seemed funny at the time

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Loved the fact that this post didn't go where I expected it to (or at least, didn't remain there). That a book like this probably wouldn't be published today, or would be less popular today, is a point that has been made many times by many people, about many different books, TV shows, jokes, etc. But the author actually moves on from there; the observation is that even in his own opinion, the same joke isn't funny today — in fact, the equivalent thing being done today just looks “grubby”.

So it's something deeper than the usual “political correctness” debate: the question really is, what is it about the world today that trumps the hallowed British traditions of celebrating failure, of moaning, of affectionate self-mockery? Why isn't the joke funny any more, or why doesn't the mocking seem affectionate?

(He points at the malaise that exists today—it was only funny when there was some hope—but I'm not sure that's the only answer…)

Re: I wrote a book called “Crap Towns”. It seemed funny at the time

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So it’s not that it won’t be published today. It just won’t be as popular today. And would, ironically, be crapped on by other people, which is what the author is unhappy about. Thats what the author means, and represents the entirety of the “Oh I am so oppressed because I can’t say shitty unfunny jokes because other people will make shitty unfunny jokes about me in response” genre of argument. The difference between…

That's not the author's main point — the author's point is the surprising observation that “That joke isn't funny any more”, even to the author himself. This is something deeper than the usual “genre of argument” you're referring to.

Re: I wrote a book called “Crap Towns”. It seemed funny at the time

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> There’s a website (I won’t link to it) that has kept on running a survey of the worst places in the UK for years and years

I will, it's ChavTowns.

https://web.archive.org/web/20061013053524/http://www.chavto...

Still running as https://www.ilivehere.co.uk/

Also the owner is giving up on it as of the start of this year -- mainly because nobody visits the site; churnalists just freeboot it and they rank higher on google. https://www.ilivehere.co.uk/top-10-worst-places-to-live-in-e...

Re: I wrote a book called “Crap Towns”. It seemed funny at the time

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The author writes well. Within a few paragraphs the reader entirely forgets that "I couldn't publish Crap Towns today" is a hypothetical.

Yeah I kept reading for the part where the author addresses the thesis, but that's not what it's about.

Re: I wrote a book called “Crap Towns”. It seemed funny at the time

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I remember a Web site, in the early oughts, called “sheppeyscum.com”. That URL now redirects to one that makes Sheppey look good. The original one did not. It was all about insulting the Isle of Sheppey (Western UK). I think an ex-Shep wrote it. Looks like all traces are gone. I understand that death threats were involved.

Crazy stuff, you got me curious

https://web.archive.org/web/20040411225059/http://www.sheppe...

> The island was shat from the arse of the Norse god Fuctup whilst he was suffering a bout of diarrhoea as a side effect of his recent withdrawal from scag. And that's true, as true as I'm sitting here. > A large number of policefolk who work on Sheppey are "Specials", which by a startling coincidence is also an affectionate term used to describe people with learning disabilities. > Christian based cults aside, the main religious practices on the island usually resemble primitive tribal type worship. Drug induced trances are a common tool for reaching the spirits beyond. These trances are often extended to include ritual drug induced self sacrifice- a deeply sacred activity known commonly to the natives as "Overdose".

You go to the "culture" section and there's just a single word, "NO." xD

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