I'm more curious in what changed with the critical section locking/unlocking implementation in this version of Windows!
How a 20 year old bug in GTA San Andreas surfaced in Windows 11 24H2
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Re: How a 20 year old bug in GTA San Andreas surfaced in Windows 11 24H2
#12Earlier quoted context omitted.
To u/db48x whose post got flagged and doesn't reappear despite me vouching for it as I think they have a point (at least for modern games): GTA San Andreas was released in 2004. Back then, YAML was in its infancy (2001) and JSON was only standardized informally in 2006, and XML wasn't something widely used outside of the Java world. On top of that, the hardware requirements (256MB of system RAM, and the PlayStation 2…
The comment reappeared, and while you're right about using proper libraries to handle data, it doesn't excuse the "undefined behavior (uninitialized local variables)" that I still see all the time despite all the warning and error flags that can be fed to the compiler. Most of the time, the programmers who do this do not follow the simple rule that Stroustrup said which is to define or initialize a variable where you…
> it doesn't excuse the "undefined behavior (uninitialized local variables)" that I still see all the time despite all the warning and error flags that you can feed to the compiler.
Yeah but we're talking about a 2004 game that was pretty rushed after 2002's Vice City (and I wouldn't be surprised if the bug in the ingestion code didn't exist there as well, just wasn't triggered due to the lack of planes except that darn RC Chopper and RC plane from that bombing run mission). Back then, the tooling to spot UB and code smell didn't even exist or, if at all, it was very rudimentary, or the warnings that did come up were just ignored because everything seemed to work.
Re: How a 20 year old bug in GTA San Andreas surfaced in Windows 11 24H2
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To u/db48x whose post got flagged and doesn't reappear despite me vouching for it as I think they have a point (at least for modern games): GTA San Andreas was released in 2004. Back then, YAML was in its infancy (2001) and JSON was only standardized informally in 2006, and XML wasn't something widely used outside of the Java world. On top of that, the hardware requirements (256MB of system RAM, and the PlayStation 2…
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#14I like the one where you shoot at the moon and it gets closer
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To u/db48x whose post got flagged and doesn't reappear despite me vouching for it as I think they have a point (at least for modern games): GTA San Andreas was released in 2004. Back then, YAML was in its infancy (2001) and JSON was only standardized informally in 2006, and XML wasn't something widely used outside of the Java world. On top of that, the hardware requirements (256MB of system RAM, and the PlayStation 2…
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#17I always enjoy reading deeply technical writeups like these. I only wonder how much more rare they may or may not get in the AI era.
i think the shift will be from craftmens to trademens in regards to general software engineers, but these are type of writes up stem of a artisan style all to its own.
Re: How a 20 year old bug in GTA San Andreas surfaced in Windows 11 24H2
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To u/db48x whose post got flagged and doesn't reappear despite me vouching for it as I think they have a point (at least for modern games): GTA San Andreas was released in 2004. Back then, YAML was in its infancy (2001) and JSON was only standardized informally in 2006, and XML wasn't something widely used outside of the Java world. On top of that, the hardware requirements (256MB of system RAM, and the PlayStation 2…
The flaw isn't the language. The issue is a 0.5x programmer not knowing to avoid sscanf() and failing to default and validate the results. This could be handled competently with strtok() parsing the lines without needing a more complicated file format.
Re: How a 20 year old bug in GTA San Andreas surfaced in Windows 11 24H2
#19Earlier quoted context omitted.
To u/db48x whose post got flagged and doesn't reappear despite me vouching for it as I think they have a point (at least for modern games): GTA San Andreas was released in 2004. Back then, YAML was in its infancy (2001) and JSON was only standardized informally in 2006, and XML wasn't something widely used outside of the Java world. On top of that, the hardware requirements (256MB of system RAM, and the PlayStation 2…
The comment reappeared, and while you're right about using proper libraries to handle data, it doesn't excuse the "undefined behavior (uninitialized local variables)" that I still see all the time despite all the warning and error flags that can be fed to the compiler. Most of the time, the programmers who do this do not follow the simple rule that Stroustrup said which is to define or initialize a variable where you…
And it did not matter at all. The game shipped and was a success.
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To u/db48x whose post got flagged and doesn't reappear despite me vouching for it as I think they have a point (at least for modern games): GTA San Andreas was released in 2004. Back then, YAML was in its infancy (2001) and JSON was only standardized informally in 2006, and XML wasn't something widely used outside of the Java world. On top of that, the hardware requirements (256MB of system RAM, and the PlayStation 2…
Why weren't binary files used like I would expect in the 1990's DOS game? fread into a struct and all that