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Welcome to the Era of Experience [pdf]

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Re: Welcome to the Era of Experience [pdf]

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Post by CuriouslyC »

jgbmlg wrote: post #4

It's ironic that machine intelligence is advancing during an era when human intelligence is declining.

The human brain optimizes for efficiency, if that extra intelligence doesn't confer survival benefits it'll be lost. I can't imagine that intelligence doesn't confer survival and reproductive benefits though, it's more likely that the gradient of survival and reproduction between the most intelligent and least has shrunk. In a sense civilization is coddling the weak, and humanity is getting weaker for it.

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Post by huijzer »

jgbmlg wrote: post #4

It's ironic that machine intelligence is advancing during an era when human intelligence is declining.

Maybe on average, but I think it’s probably correlated to inequality. The kid of two Oxford professors will probably be smarter than a kid that grew up in poverty. The school system is aimed at mitigating these differences, but if on average everyone gets less intelligent maybe the school system is working poorly.

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Post by chneu »

jgbmlg wrote: post #4

It's ironic that machine intelligence is advancing during an era when human intelligence is declining.

It's not. Everytime there's a new form of media or communication there's an uptick in "bad actors". Think yellow journalism or any of the moral panics around TV programming. Even back when the printing press was invented there was an uptick in troll behavior. One of the Green brothers posited that martin Luther was really just a pamphlet troll.

With social media and the Internet, stupid just got louder. I don't think people got stupid.

Re: Welcome to the Era of Experience [pdf]

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Post by kubb »

Wowzers, it’s happening imminently. Great to know that we can expect agents that learn from experience very very soon!

When they’re here I’ll make an upvote farming bot that learns from experience how not to get caught and unleash it on HM.

After that I’ll make an agent that runs a SaaS company that learns from experience how to make money and I’ll finally be able to chill out and play video games.

That last thing I’ll actually do myself, I won’t use an agent, although the experience revolution stared with games. Ironic!

But I’ll make an agent that learns from experience what kind of games I like and how to make them. This way I’ll have an endless supply.

Re: Welcome to the Era of Experience [pdf]

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Post by lazide »

huijzer wrote: post #12
jgbmlg wrote: post #4

It's ironic that machine intelligence is advancing during an era when human intelligence is declining.

Maybe on average, but I think it’s probably correlated to inequality. The kid of two Oxford professors will probably be smarter than a kid that grew up in poverty. The school system is aimed at mitigating these differences, but if on average everyone gets less intelligent maybe the school system is working poorly.

Eh, or there is a massive effort to push as many people as possible down Maslow’s hierarchy of needs - which also shows up as being less intelligent.

Happening right out in the open, and quite blatantly.

Re: Welcome to the Era of Experience [pdf]

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Post by croes »

chneu wrote: post #14
jgbmlg wrote: post #4

It's ironic that machine intelligence is advancing during an era when human intelligence is declining.

It's not. Everytime there's a new form of media or communication there's an uptick in "bad actors". Think yellow journalism or any of the moral panics around TV programming. Even back when the printing press was invented there was an uptick in troll behavior. One of the Green brothers posited that martin Luther was really just a pamphlet troll. With social media and the Internet, stupid just got louder. I don't think…

Not just louder, it got in power

Re: Welcome to the Era of Experience [pdf]

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Post by baxtr »

chneu wrote: post #14
jgbmlg wrote: post #4

It's ironic that machine intelligence is advancing during an era when human intelligence is declining.

It's not. Everytime there's a new form of media or communication there's an uptick in "bad actors". Think yellow journalism or any of the moral panics around TV programming. Even back when the printing press was invented there was an uptick in troll behavior. One of the Green brothers posited that martin Luther was really just a pamphlet troll. With social media and the Internet, stupid just got louder. I don't think…

Yes. Exactly right.

Also well documented. Anyone interested, read the book: Attention Merchants by Wu.

Re: Welcome to the Era of Experience [pdf]

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Post by sdsd »

chneu wrote: post #14
jgbmlg wrote: post #4

It's ironic that machine intelligence is advancing during an era when human intelligence is declining.

It's not. Everytime there's a new form of media or communication there's an uptick in "bad actors". Think yellow journalism or any of the moral panics around TV programming. Even back when the printing press was invented there was an uptick in troll behavior. One of the Green brothers posited that martin Luther was really just a pamphlet troll. With social media and the Internet, stupid just got louder. I don't think…

Yes and no. In swaths of the world, we're actually observing a reverse Flynn effect and IQ has been dropping, in some places for decades.

Eg: https://www.popularmechanics.com/science/a43469569/american-...

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