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Generate videos in Gemini and Whisk with Veo 2

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Re: Generate videos in Gemini and Whisk with Veo 2

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Post by minimaxir »

Whisk itself (https://labs.google/fx/tools/whisk) was released a few months ago under the radar as a demo for Imagen 3 and it's actually fun to play with and surprisingly robust given its particular implementation.

It uses a prompt transmutation trick (convert the uploaded images into a textual description; can verify by viewing the description of the uploaded image) and the strength of Imagen 3's actually modern text encoder to be able to adhere to those long transmuted descriptions for Subject/Scene/Style.

Re: Generate videos in Gemini and Whisk with Veo 2

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Post by minimaxir »

smallnix wrote: post #12

Brave to make ads with the Ghibli style. Would have thought that's burned by now.

Looking at the video, I think there's shenanigans afoot. The anime picture they input as a sample image is more generic anime, but the example output image is clearly Ghibli-esque in the same vein as the 4o image generations.

Re: Generate videos in Gemini and Whisk with Veo 2

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Post by delichon »

kevingadd wrote: post #5
delichon wrote: post #4

I think I would buy "yes" shares in a Polymarket event that predicts a motion picture created by a single person grossing more than $100M by 2027.

I think the obstacles there are distribution and IP rights. I think we will see content like that find widespread appeal and success but actually turning it into $100m in revenue requires having the copyright (at present, not possible for AI-generated content) and being able to convince a distributor to invest in it. Those both seem like really tough things to solve.

Purely AI-generated content -- with no human authorship -- is not eligible for US copyright protection. However if a human contributes meaningfully to the final output (editing, selection, arrangement, etc.) it becomes eligible. See Thaler v. Perlmutter (2023).

Re: Generate videos in Gemini and Whisk with Veo 2

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Post by jddj »

delichon wrote: post #4

I think I would buy "yes" shares in a Polymarket event that predicts a motion picture created by a single person grossing more than $100M by 2027.

I came to the same sort of conclusion when watching Kitsune, which I think was one person and VEO https://vimeo.com/1047370252

Granted, 5 minutes isn't 1h30 but it's not a million miles away either.

Re: Generate videos in Gemini and Whisk with Veo 2

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Post by tracerbulletx »

delichon wrote: post #4

I think I would buy "yes" shares in a Polymarket event that predicts a motion picture created by a single person grossing more than $100M by 2027.

Everyone keeps ignoring supply and demand when talking about the impacts of AI. Let's just assume it really gets so good you can do this and it doesn't suck.

Yes the costs will get so low that there will be almost no barrier to making content but if there is no barrier to making content, the ROI will be massive, and so everyone will be doing it, you can more or less have the exact movie you want in your head on demand, and even if you want a bespoke movie from an artist with great taste and a point of view there will be 10,000 of them every year.

Re: Generate videos in Gemini and Whisk with Veo 2

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Post by colesantiago »

delichon wrote: post #4

I think I would buy "yes" shares in a Polymarket event that predicts a motion picture created by a single person grossing more than $100M by 2027.

My prediction is on track to this and this was made only 4 months ago.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42368951

Re: Generate videos in Gemini and Whisk with Veo 2

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Post by delichon »

colesantiago wrote: post #17
delichon wrote: post #4

I think I would buy "yes" shares in a Polymarket event that predicts a motion picture created by a single person grossing more than $100M by 2027.

My prediction is on track to this and this was made only 4 months ago. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42368951

There may be a solo (not Han) movie good enough to compete in five years, but I doubt that Academy voters will be that welcoming of the tech that can obliterate most of their jobs by then.

Re: Generate videos in Gemini and Whisk with Veo 2

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Post by karolist »

xnx wrote: post #7
delichon wrote: post #4

I think I would buy "yes" shares in a Polymarket event that predicts a motion picture created by a single person grossing more than $100M by 2027.

We've got a pretty good datapoint along that trajectory with Flow. Almost entirely one person and has grossed $36 million. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flow_(2024_film)

Went to the cinema with my kids for the 2nd time to watch this one, was pleasantly surprised to read this movie was done using Blender, highly recommended.

Re: Generate videos in Gemini and Whisk with Veo 2

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Post by nmilo »

tracerbulletx wrote: post #16
delichon wrote: post #4

I think I would buy "yes" shares in a Polymarket event that predicts a motion picture created by a single person grossing more than $100M by 2027.

Everyone keeps ignoring supply and demand when talking about the impacts of AI. Let's just assume it really gets so good you can do this and it doesn't suck. Yes the costs will get so low that there will be almost no barrier to making content but if there is no barrier to making content, the ROI will be massive, and so everyone will be doing it, you can more or less have the exact movie you want in your head on deman…

It will be like YouTube. Distribution will be hard and most of it will be slop but every now and then you’ll discover something so good and so creative and it couldn’t have possibly existed before that it makes the whole experience worth it. The best creative works are led by one person and I’m excited to see what people can come up with.
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