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eInk Mode: Making web pages easier to read

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Re: eInk Mode: Making web pages easier to read

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Okay, so I started reading this and got excited to see what this was all about. I've been wanting a web browser that can turn the "regular web" (as much as possible) into something more like an e-book that happens to have hyperlinks. Essentially, imagine Reader Mode, but all the time. But this is... something else? I tried scrolling to the bottom and as soon as I click on the scroll bar, I get a pop-up showing a bunc…

Actually it's not a bad idea. Scrolling is impossible on epaper screens.

Re: eInk Mode: Making web pages easier to read

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post #6

Okay, so I started reading this and got excited to see what this was all about. I've been wanting a web browser that can turn the "regular web" (as much as possible) into something more like an e-book that happens to have hyperlinks. Essentially, imagine Reader Mode, but all the time. But this is... something else? I tried scrolling to the bottom and as soon as I click on the scroll bar, I get a pop-up showing a bunc…

This is something I've been wanting for a while. You could probably build an extension to accomplish that. One hard challenge would be extracting content and then displaying it in a way that retains its semantics across the web, including navigation, sidebars, etc. Another would be form handling.

Re: eInk Mode: Making web pages easier to read

#14

Honestly now I want "paged mode" as an option in my browsers next to "reader mode". Or a thing I can choose for reader mode to involve. Flipping pages on my desktop with l/r arrow keys (which is what this 'eink mode' does if you invoke it on a desktop) instead of endlessly scrolling is pretty nice .

It's a funny old world. Last weekend I jailbroke my Kindle for various reasons but among them to get continuous scrolling. I never imagined people would want anything else on the desktop. Different strokes for different folks, of course...

Re: eInk Mode: Making web pages easier to read

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post #6

Okay, so I started reading this and got excited to see what this was all about. I've been wanting a web browser that can turn the "regular web" (as much as possible) into something more like an e-book that happens to have hyperlinks. Essentially, imagine Reader Mode, but all the time. But this is... something else? I tried scrolling to the bottom and as soon as I click on the scroll bar, I get a pop-up showing a bunc…

This is something I've been wanting for a while. You could probably build an extension to accomplish that. One hard challenge would be extracting content and then displaying it in a way that retains its semantics across the web, including navigation, sidebars, etc. Another would be form handling.

How about an extension that does it -after- the browser has implemented reader view? Then all that is already taken care of.

Re: eInk Mode: Making web pages easier to read

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can -almost- do this on most browsers by pressing space bar to scroll down and shift+space bar to scroll up. But on phones there is no remedy yet. For e-ink the problem with space bar scrolling is that it has an animation which messes up the display. Historically we went from scrolls to pages when the printing press was developed. Digital reading needs to go through the same evolution, it seems.

"Almost" is doing a lot of work in this sentence. Lines of text end up halfway off the screen. Sticky headers obscure text and you have to scroll backwards. It's just a messy experience.

If you use reader mode, then you won't have those problems.

Bonus: J/K keys will scroll to next paragraph or HTML element.

Re: eInk Mode: Making web pages easier to read

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Side note: is there any eink monitor someone recommends? I have a macbook pro, a macbook air and a remarkable pro. The Remarkable pro (has colors) flickers way too much. My macbook pro also uses miniled which dries my eyes. It is using PWM I figured (work laptop, so I used it docked). I want an eink monitor with no flickers, that is easy on the eyes. The macbook air screen is great compared to the macbook pro (does not use PWM). I thought I don't need color on the eink monitor, but syntax highlighting helps ... Maybe I am just getting old ha, but I sit in front of monitors for 10-12 hours a day

Re: eInk Mode: Making web pages easier to read

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post #6

Okay, so I started reading this and got excited to see what this was all about. I've been wanting a web browser that can turn the "regular web" (as much as possible) into something more like an e-book that happens to have hyperlinks. Essentially, imagine Reader Mode, but all the time. But this is... something else? I tried scrolling to the bottom and as soon as I click on the scroll bar, I get a pop-up showing a bunc…

There may be good ideas in here, particularly for the e-reader users, but it's a terribly unfriendly web site from a mouse / keyboard. Having no (apparent) way to escape eInk mode is really not a great user experience.

And I, too, fell into the eInk mode by clicking on the scrollbar. Very odd design decisions there.

I couldn't figure out how to go "up" in pages. Pressing "Home" didn't do anything. So a lot of web browser / mouse / keyboard functionality is thrown out in that mode, which shouldn't be necessary to still be a good e-reader mode.

Re: eInk Mode: Making web pages easier to read

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post #6

Okay, so I started reading this and got excited to see what this was all about. I've been wanting a web browser that can turn the "regular web" (as much as possible) into something more like an e-book that happens to have hyperlinks. Essentially, imagine Reader Mode, but all the time. But this is... something else? I tried scrolling to the bottom and as soon as I click on the scroll bar, I get a pop-up showing a bunc…

If it can get rid of any kind of pop-up (newsletter, GDPR, intercom, install the app to keep reading, click here to read the full article) interruptions, I want it ...

These interruptions are especially annoying on e-ink.

Re: eInk Mode: Making web pages easier to read

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post #6

Okay, so I started reading this and got excited to see what this was all about. I've been wanting a web browser that can turn the "regular web" (as much as possible) into something more like an e-book that happens to have hyperlinks. Essentially, imagine Reader Mode, but all the time. But this is... something else? I tried scrolling to the bottom and as soon as I click on the scroll bar, I get a pop-up showing a bunc…

I find the wording ambiguous, but this:

> Eink mode is not a closed-file format reader but rather a form of responsive web design (RWD) integrated into the website itself.

suggests to me that it's a display mode you have to enable in the CSS design of the site, like "print" layout. I.e. this particular version is not software you can use on any site, it has to be baked into the site.

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