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3D Army Land Navigation Courses

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Re: 3D Army Land Navigation Courses

#11
I did the Duke of Edinburgh bronze silver and gold when I was a kid, back before smart phones. Only one person on the team could reliably navigate, and he was mostly just basing his assessment on our position using compass and tree line.

They taught us to triangulate using pencil and ruler, but no one has time for that when it's starting to get dark.

Re: 3D Army Land Navigation Courses

#12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

All I've done so far is read guax's link on the coordinate system, but I think the intended workflow goes like this: 1. Plot the point where you currently are on the map. 2. Flag that point; you only get two Grease Pencil Points, but you need to remember this forever. 3. Plot the point you want to get to. Flag that one too. (You'll need to clear the grease pencil in order to do this. Flag your location before you do.…

>> I'm surprised they give you the option to move forward deterministically; that's not actually a thing that humans operating outside can do. Absent distant landmarks?

You can do a pretty good job if you can see mountains, or the sun.

Re: 3D Army Land Navigation Courses

#14
How to play is explained here [1]

By the way you can run the games locally. Just download all files.

For the forest game you would have a local directory:

   ├── Build
   │   ├── Build_7_30_F.asm.code.unityweb
   │   ├── Build_7_30_F.asm.framework.unityweb
   │   ├── Build_7_30_F.asm.memory.unityweb
   │   ├── Build_7_30_F.data.unityweb
   │   ├── Build_7_30_F.json
   │   └── UnityLoader.js
   └── index.html
then just run the following in the directory

    python3 -m http.server
[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a74KM792gbo

Re: 3D Army Land Navigation Courses

#15

I did the Duke of Edinburgh bronze silver and gold when I was a kid, back before smart phones. Only one person on the team could reliably navigate, and he was mostly just basing his assessment on our position using compass and tree line. They taught us to triangulate using pencil and ruler, but no one has time for that when it's starting to get dark.

> They taught us to triangulate using pencil and ruler, but no one has time for that when it's starting to get dark.

I was a military land nav instructor (although not for the US military) and this was one of our biggest challenges, especially once smart phones become common. People would consider position fixing to be an unbearable waste of time and would inevitably waste hours of time and effort because of it.

Re: 3D Army Land Navigation Courses

#16

I did the Duke of Edinburgh bronze silver and gold when I was a kid, back before smart phones. Only one person on the team could reliably navigate, and he was mostly just basing his assessment on our position using compass and tree line. They taught us to triangulate using pencil and ruler, but no one has time for that when it's starting to get dark.

> They taught us to triangulate using pencil and ruler, but no one has time for that when it's starting to get dark. I was a military land nav instructor (although not for the US military) and this was one of our biggest challenges, especially once smart phones become common. People would consider position fixing to be an unbearable waste of time and would inevitably waste hours of time and effort because of it.

Sad story. A few weeks ago, a few US tankmen got lost in a Lithuanian training grounds driving a M88 recovery vehicle. They drowned in a swamp. Took most of a week to find and excavate them (they were under meters of mud). Last I heard the investigation is ongoing, but a theory is that their GPS was malfunctioning due to Russian or Belorussian GPS jamming and the crew failed to navigate without GPS. Russian GPS jamming is a constant occurance in the region and training happened near the Belorussian border.

Re: 3D Army Land Navigation Courses

#18

Can highly recommend orienteering racing if this seems like your kind of thing

Orienteering is a fantastic sport. I've been doing it my entire life.

The orienteers I've known have been some of the brightest and fittest people I've ever met (going to Cambridge, Oxford), doing all sorts of interesting things, and are some of the best runners you can find. One of my closest orienteering friends was disappointed in running sub-2:40 in his first marathon.

Re: 3D Army Land Navigation Courses

#20
See Catching Features (first released around 2006) for the orienteering version of this. It still has weekly competitions with up to 100 or so regulars playing.

As another commenter suggested, orienteering is great as a sport/running variation of this. Orienteers are some of the brightest and fittest people I know.

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