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Gazans tell BBC of torture in Israeli detention

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Re: Gazans tell BBC of torture in Israeli detention

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I have to tread lightly on this subject of course-- While I agree with calls for Hamas to "return the hostages," I feel exactly the same towards the thousands of Palestinians kept in Israeli prisons, often innocent, often without charge, often underage, often beaten, tortured, or sexually abused.

There are large protests of the fragile Israeli coalition government, by Jewish Israeli citizens, in Israel, every day. Specifically over this unpopular war. They flared up in size after the most recent cease fire ended.

It means that the global unpopularity of this war by non-Jewish non-Israeli people was always worth validating.

The culture of deflection in response to non-jewish people criticizing the exact same things that Jewish Israeli citizens are is just a meme worth ignoring. The general idea is that there is a belief that non-jewish people worldwide are thinly hiding a goal of eradication. A lot of Jewish and Israeli people are taught that from a young age, so its not easy for them to tell when people are only criticizing the exact same government policies that they are, with the same level of nuance.

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I have to tread lightly on this subject of course-- While I agree with calls for Hamas to "return the hostages," I feel exactly the same towards the thousands of Palestinians kept in Israeli prisons, often innocent, often without charge, often underage, often beaten, tortured, or sexually abused.

Got any evidence for any of these allegations?

I'm not parent commenter, but TFA is primary reporting containing exactly the evidence you are asking about.

> men [...] held under Israel's Unlawful Combatants Law, a measure by which people suspected of posing a security risk can be detained for an unspecified period without charge, as Israel set out to recover the hostages and dismantle the proscribed terror group

which may or may not be distinct what parent comment refers to by Palestinian prisoners:

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cn7vje365rno

The BBC article cites further related reporting:

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cx2yylgze4ro

https://www.ohchr.org/sites/default/files/documents/hrbodies...

Re: Gazans tell BBC of torture in Israeli detention

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post #10
post #8

I have to tread lightly on this subject of course-- While I agree with calls for Hamas to "return the hostages," I feel exactly the same towards the thousands of Palestinians kept in Israeli prisons, often innocent, often without charge, often underage, often beaten, tortured, or sexually abused.

Got any evidence for any of these allegations?

have you got any evidence to the contrary?

Re: Gazans tell BBC of torture in Israeli detention

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It appears that the IDF killed medics in ambulances with emergency lights on and high vis clothing, then lied about it. So nothing should surprise us at this point. "BBC Verify analyses video showing Israel's killing of Gaza medics" https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/videos/cj9e22dezeno

HN discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43599864 (86 comments)

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I have to tread lightly on this subject of course-- While I agree with calls for Hamas to "return the hostages," I feel exactly the same towards the thousands of Palestinians kept in Israeli prisons, often innocent, often without charge, often underage, often beaten, tortured, or sexually abused.

There are large protests of the fragile Israeli coalition government, by Jewish Israeli citizens, in Israel, every day. Specifically over this unpopular war. They flared up in size after the most recent cease fire ended. It means that the global unpopularity of this war by non-Jewish non-Israeli people was always worth validating. The culture of deflection in response to non-jewish people criticizing the exact same t…

It's a genocide it's not a war

Re: Gazans tell BBC of torture in Israeli detention

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post #8

I have to tread lightly on this subject of course-- While I agree with calls for Hamas to "return the hostages," I feel exactly the same towards the thousands of Palestinians kept in Israeli prisons, often innocent, often without charge, often underage, often beaten, tortured, or sexually abused.

There are large protests of the fragile Israeli coalition government, by Jewish Israeli citizens, in Israel, every day. Specifically over this unpopular war. They flared up in size after the most recent cease fire ended. It means that the global unpopularity of this war by non-Jewish non-Israeli people was always worth validating. The culture of deflection in response to non-jewish people criticizing the exact same t…

Would you be able to explain how

> A lot of Jewish and Israeli people are taught [that non-jewish people worldwide are thinly hiding a goal of eradication] from a young age

this works? I'm not Jewish or Israeli, and would like to understand whether it's taught through religion or culture. And what "eradication" means in this context.

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It appears that the IDF killed medics in ambulances with emergency lights on and high vis clothing, then lied about it. So nothing should surprise us at this point. "BBC Verify analyses video showing Israel's killing of Gaza medics" https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/videos/cj9e22dezeno

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I have to tread lightly on this subject of course-- While I agree with calls for Hamas to "return the hostages," I feel exactly the same towards the thousands of Palestinians kept in Israeli prisons, often innocent, often without charge, often underage, often beaten, tortured, or sexually abused.

There are large protests of the fragile Israeli coalition government, by Jewish Israeli citizens, in Israel, every day. Specifically over this unpopular war. They flared up in size after the most recent cease fire ended. It means that the global unpopularity of this war by non-Jewish non-Israeli people was always worth validating. The culture of deflection in response to non-jewish people criticizing the exact same t…

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