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North Korean IT workers have infiltrated the Fortune 500

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Re: North Korean IT workers have infiltrated the Fortune 500

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

How did you figure out what was going on?

Lots of red flags in the paperwork combined with strange behavior and him accidentally connecting one time without a VPN. We're a startup so I don't think the end goal was to scam us per se but more to get money or more likely build credibility.

They were probably "severely punished" for the slip up of not using their VPN...

Re: North Korean IT workers have infiltrated the Fortune 500

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I don’t understand this. There are well qualified legitimate candidates desperate for a job. How are North Koreans getting these jobs instead? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43612448

> well qualified legitimate candidates

How do you choose between a well qualified legitimate candidate and a extremely well qualified 'appears to be' legitimate candidate?

These people are presumably not advertising themselves to be from Pyongyang.

Re: North Korean IT workers have infiltrated the Fortune 500

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This part is genius:

    > Nowadays, Leggio told Fortune he won’t even set up an interview with a candidate who seems promising on paper unless they agree to one final step.

    “Say something negative about Kim Jong Un,” Leggio tells potential job candidates, referring to the third-generation authoritarian Supreme Leader of North Korea, officially the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea (DPRK). Through research, Leggio learned insulting the DPRK’s Supreme Leader is forbidden, and North Korean citizens could face serious punishment for showing anything less than reverence.

    “The first time I ever did it, the person started freaking out and cursing,” said Leggio.

    The job seeker subsequently blocked Leggio across all social media platforms. Now Leggio makes the same request before every single interview. Other startups and founders he knows are asking the same thing of job seekers, he said.

Re: North Korean IT workers have infiltrated the Fortune 500

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This part is genius: > Nowadays, Leggio told Fortune he won’t even set up an interview with a candidate who seems promising on paper unless they agree to one final step. “Say something negative about Kim Jong Un,” Leggio tells potential job candidates, referring to the third-generation authoritarian Supreme Leader of North Korea, officially the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea (DPRK). Through research, Leggio le…

I love it. That’s genius. Though I wonder if they’d be a special exception: You can talk bad about Kim if American Evil Capitalists force you as long as you get in and bring in the dough.

I am afraid they are a lot more cynical than we give them credit, though.

Re: North Korean IT workers have infiltrated the Fortune 500

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My company accidently employed on for about 3 days until we realized what was happening and cut them loose. I recognize this was likely sourced from a PR agency working for a security product meant for global employee verification but I can attest they are addressing a real problem.

Are the interviews remote and with webcams off? - Do the North Korean candidates have American accents?

Re: North Korean IT workers have infiltrated the Fortune 500

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I don’t understand this. There are well qualified legitimate candidates desperate for a job. How are North Koreans getting these jobs instead? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43612448

Is this to imply that north Koreans can't be well qualified legitimate candidates?

Re: North Korean IT workers have infiltrated the Fortune 500

#17

This part is genius: > Nowadays, Leggio told Fortune he won’t even set up an interview with a candidate who seems promising on paper unless they agree to one final step. “Say something negative about Kim Jong Un,” Leggio tells potential job candidates, referring to the third-generation authoritarian Supreme Leader of North Korea, officially the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea (DPRK). Through research, Leggio le…

I don’t think that’s going to work for long. A typical defender/attacker dynamic at play.

Re: North Korean IT workers have infiltrated the Fortune 500

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I don’t understand this. There are well qualified legitimate candidates desperate for a job. How are North Koreans getting these jobs instead? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43612448

Is this to imply that north Koreans can't be well qualified legitimate candidates?

Well qualified, sure

Legitimate? Seems unlikely, given the state of affairs in North Korea

Re: North Korean IT workers have infiltrated the Fortune 500

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A flagged post mentions this is racist and typical anti immigration rhetoric.

That's not true, there are only two types of North Korean people you'll meet, either those that have defected and escaped North Korea or those that are agents of the state of North Korea.

There are very few defectors in existence and once they escape they're given full South Korean citizenship. This article is not about those people.

The vast majority of North Koreans outside North Korea are not defectors, instead they are controlled state assets. There are no North Korean people outside the country that are free citizens. Every single North Korean authorised to leave the country is working directly for their government often to raise money for the regime, to steal IP, to infiltrate for some nefarious purpose.

Having one of these North Korean active assets in your company is extremely dangerous, your business is now at risk of leaks, theft, or worst something being modified like added vulnerabilities that could be exploited later in cyber attacks.

So no, this article is not racist at all and really has nothing to do with the recent political situation.

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