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Agenda Behind the Facial Recognition Tech Used by ICE and the FBI Revealed

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Re: Agenda Behind the Facial Recognition Tech Used by ICE and the FBI Revealed

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Post by mingus88 »

notfed wrote: post #8
evanjrowley wrote: post #2

So a journalist at Mother Jones is shocked, but did anyone here on HN not predict this strategy long before Trump got his 2nd term?

Sadly this prediction could have been generalized to the US executive branch regardless of the most recent election. It's more of the same from what we've seen in the past, Democrat and Republican leader alike.

Far be it from me to interrupt your both-sides deflection but I’d like to ask you to cite any report in the recent past when democrats have called for the arrest or use of violence and/or the military against protesters

Re: Agenda Behind the Facial Recognition Tech Used by ICE and the FBI Revealed

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Post by happytoexplain »

evanjrowley wrote: post #2

So a journalist at Mother Jones is shocked, but did anyone here on HN not predict this strategy long before Trump got his 2nd term?

What does this accomplish? I genuinely don't understand why this fallacy is so common, even trying to come at it from a psychology perspective.

Something being shocking is not the same as something being unforeseeable. Being shocked by shocking behavior doesn't make you some kind of idiot. Acting as if having emotions about immoral behavior is beneath you is self-aggrandizing.

I'm sorry for my tone, but I'm sick of this genre of internet comment in particular.

Re: Agenda Behind the Facial Recognition Tech Used by ICE and the FBI Revealed

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Post by briandear »

bitwize wrote: post #4
anoncow wrote: post #3

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If they're selling surveillance tech to law enforcement (especially American law enforcement, who will deploy it disproportionately against marginalized groups), they're fascists. Simple as.

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Re: Agenda Behind the Facial Recognition Tech Used by ICE and the FBI Revealed

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Post by just_steve_h »

mingus88 wrote: post #11
notfed wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sadly this prediction could have been generalized to the US executive branch regardless of the most recent election. It's more of the same from what we've seen in the past, Democrat and Republican leader alike.

Far be it from me to interrupt your both-sides deflection but I’d like to ask you to cite any report in the recent past when democrats have called for the arrest or use of violence and/or the military against protesters

Perhaps you slept through the year leading up to the 2024 election, when Democrats sent riot police into student protests? They arrested thousands, and were plenty violent. Democratic president & governor & mayor (NYC and LA and Boston, for example).

Or perhaps you missed the Occupy movement which was violently disrupted on a national scale with coordinated raids across the country, organized through the “Fusion Centers” (FBI + DHS + State & Local law enforcement)?

Anyhow, my point here is that organized violence against leftist protestors is a fully bipartisan policy, and has been for more than 100 years.

Re: Agenda Behind the Facial Recognition Tech Used by ICE and the FBI Revealed

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Post by kelipso »

mingus88 wrote: post #11
notfed wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sadly this prediction could have been generalized to the US executive branch regardless of the most recent election. It's more of the same from what we've seen in the past, Democrat and Republican leader alike.

Far be it from me to interrupt your both-sides deflection but I’d like to ask you to cite any report in the recent past when democrats have called for the arrest or use of violence and/or the military against protesters

You just forgot the Palestine protests or what.

Re: Agenda Behind the Facial Recognition Tech Used by ICE and the FBI Revealed

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Post by generalizations »

mingus88 wrote: post #11
notfed wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sadly this prediction could have been generalized to the US executive branch regardless of the most recent election. It's more of the same from what we've seen in the past, Democrat and Republican leader alike.

Far be it from me to interrupt your both-sides deflection but I’d like to ask you to cite any report in the recent past when democrats have called for the arrest or use of violence and/or the military against protesters

The trick is to call them something else. The January 6 protesters come to mind, but since they actually threatened the lawmakers - not just random proles - they aren't called "protesters". Conversely, make sure the BLM folks are definitely not called rioters, even if you have to call them "fiery but peaceful" protestors.

Re: Agenda Behind the Facial Recognition Tech Used by ICE and the FBI Revealed

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Post by spencerflem »

briandear wrote: post #14
bitwize wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If they're selling surveillance tech to law enforcement (especially American law enforcement, who will deploy it disproportionately against marginalized groups), they're fascists. Simple as.

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Re: Agenda Behind the Facial Recognition Tech Used by ICE and the FBI Revealed

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Post by happytoexplain »

briandear wrote: post #14
bitwize wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If they're selling surveillance tech to law enforcement (especially American law enforcement, who will deploy it disproportionately against marginalized groups), they're fascists. Simple as.

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This is uncharitable, to put it lightly. The parent is describing behavior commonly associated in the popular consciousness with fascism. And yes, your examples do fall into that category (assuming your framing is honest, called into question by your framing of Trump's actions). That may be inaccurate from an academic or historic perspective, but they are not simply "calling things we don’t like fascism", which is of course a real and common crime in political discourse, and which you are misapplying in turn, I believe.

Re: Agenda Behind the Facial Recognition Tech Used by ICE and the FBI Revealed

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Post by morkalork »

hayst4ck wrote: post #6

This article is really worth a read and talks about the much deeper mechanics and institutional power behind what is happening now. Clearview had compiled a massive biometric database that would eventually contain billions of images the company scraped off the internet and social media without the knowledge of the platforms or their users. Its AI analyzed these images, creating a “faceprint” for every individual. The…

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