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How new US tariffs are forcing Europe to rethink its entire tech stack
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Re: How new US tariffs are forcing Europe to rethink its entire tech stack
#12Every continent will have its own cloud, and tech by the end of 2050.
This is looking like a good bet at this point.
Even if Republicans are removed from office in the next election, the damage is done. Europe simply can't trust in the long term stability of US policy. If Europe cannot trust in it, neither will any other continent.
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#13I believe politicians in the EU are chomping at the bit to get a digital services tax implemented against US big tech companies. I think Silicon Valley tech titans really screwed the pooch here. They are going to be big targets for trade retaliation and I am not sure how much help the US government will be able to offer. Moreover, if the administration changes, the Democrats will absolutely take apart these tech comp…
Looking at the situation from the shoes of a tech titan (Zuck, Musk, Bezos, etc), i almost see it as the lesser of two evils. The problem they had was Lina Khan, who was dead set on breaking up their monopolies. They all decided to get into bed with the Trump admin and help het the guy elected, they all say it was for free speech but let’s get real it’s only because Lina Khan is no longer at FTC. But now they have a…
The tech hate is bipartisan, however the tech companies got lucky that the Republican choice for President happens to be distinctly corrupt and easy to buy off with money and flattery. Additionally, his feelings are so easily hurt that Congress, which otherwise might implement bi-partisan tech legislation, is afraid of offending him for fear of being targets of his lashing out, so they're just sitting on the sidelines rather than legislating.
This is a unique set of circumstances; given any other combination of parties in power, with any different President, and they'd be in the bullseye right now.
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#14I believe politicians in the EU are chomping at the bit to get a digital services tax implemented against US big tech companies. I think Silicon Valley tech titans really screwed the pooch here. They are going to be big targets for trade retaliation and I am not sure how much help the US government will be able to offer. Moreover, if the administration changes, the Democrats will absolutely take apart these tech comp…
America runs a large trade surplus in services, but unfortunately for the US quaternary sector only 1950s-style manufacturing counts in the minds of some key decisionmakers.
Re: How new US tariffs are forcing Europe to rethink its entire tech stack
#15I believe politicians in the EU are chomping at the bit to get a digital services tax implemented against US big tech companies. I think Silicon Valley tech titans really screwed the pooch here. They are going to be big targets for trade retaliation and I am not sure how much help the US government will be able to offer. Moreover, if the administration changes, the Democrats will absolutely take apart these tech comp…
Looking at the situation from the shoes of a tech titan (Zuck, Musk, Bezos, etc), i almost see it as the lesser of two evils. The problem they had was Lina Khan, who was dead set on breaking up their monopolies. They all decided to get into bed with the Trump admin and help het the guy elected, they all say it was for free speech but let’s get real it’s only because Lina Khan is no longer at FTC. But now they have a…
> The problem they had was Lina Khan, who was dead set on breaking up their monopolies.
Guess what? The breakup of their monopolies is still going to continue :-)
Free speech? Did Biden put a Bridle in their mouth to control their speech?
Re: How new US tariffs are forcing Europe to rethink its entire tech stack
#16This is broadly a good thing: it will lead to more competition and a more vibrant, diverse internet with a wider array of choices. It does, of course, suck for the companies that are used to being near-monopolies. Which is not to say that the tariffs are a good thing at all, of course. But if it encourages international communities to build their own stacks and add them to the marketplace, that's a really strong silv…
this is also my thinking. what trump is doing is pure evil, but he will have unintended positive consequences by undermining american monopolies.
Re: How new US tariffs are forcing Europe to rethink its entire tech stack
#17I believe politicians in the EU are chomping at the bit to get a digital services tax implemented against US big tech companies. I think Silicon Valley tech titans really screwed the pooch here. They are going to be big targets for trade retaliation and I am not sure how much help the US government will be able to offer. Moreover, if the administration changes, the Democrats will absolutely take apart these tech comp…
> if the administration changes, the Democrats will absolutely take apart these tech companies. I don’t know if it will happen though. Tech companies have a lot of cash and lobby power. But some kind of move is highly needed as the tech sector morphed into something despicable
Even from a practical point of view. Now, however ill-advised, you're in the middle of a trade war. It's probably taking a huge toll on your economy. Are you gonna mess with what are likely the last pillars of what economic stability you have left? I think medical/healthcare will not be able to be touched for a while. Tech will not be able to be touched for a while. And so on. They just provide too many jobs in an environment where jobs in other sectors will likely be insecure at best and disappearing at worst.
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#18Earlier quoted context omitted.
Looking at the situation from the shoes of a tech titan (Zuck, Musk, Bezos, etc), i almost see it as the lesser of two evils. The problem they had was Lina Khan, who was dead set on breaking up their monopolies. They all decided to get into bed with the Trump admin and help het the guy elected, they all say it was for free speech but let’s get real it’s only because Lina Khan is no longer at FTC. But now they have a…
The tech hate is bipartisan, however the tech companies got lucky that the Republican choice for President happens to be distinctly corrupt and easy to buy off with money and flattery. Additionally, his feelings are so easily hurt that Congress, which otherwise might implement bi-partisan tech legislation, is afraid of offending him for fear of being targets of his lashing out, so they're just sitting on the sideline…
> so they're just sitting on the sidelines rather than legislating.
Not really!! Many are schooling him these days, but he’s too dumb to understand anything
Re: How new US tariffs are forcing Europe to rethink its entire tech stack
#19Earlier quoted context omitted.
Looking at the situation from the shoes of a tech titan (Zuck, Musk, Bezos, etc), i almost see it as the lesser of two evils. The problem they had was Lina Khan, who was dead set on breaking up their monopolies. They all decided to get into bed with the Trump admin and help het the guy elected, they all say it was for free speech but let’s get real it’s only because Lina Khan is no longer at FTC. But now they have a…
> The problem they had was Lina Khan, who was dead set on breaking up their monopolies. Guess what? The breakup of their monopolies is still going to continue :-) Free speech? Did Biden put a Bridle in their mouth to control their speech?
The breakup of their monopolies is still going to continue
You believe that, if it brings you comfort.
Re: How new US tariffs are forcing Europe to rethink its entire tech stack
#20Yep. I think package/source repositories will need to add "Political Sphere" right next to "License" in the top-level information so tech people can choose the right dependencies. Companies/projects will need to have a political policy just like they have a legal policy.