Is there any proof that they're coding errors? A simpler explanation, to me at least, is that they first blanket fired people by dubious criteria, and are now using this as an excuse to backpedal when they realize they've cut something important.
After 'coding error' triggers firings, top NIH scientists called back to work
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#12In general it is a good practice to assume other parties are making a good faith effort, but after so many obvious cockups, that grace has been exhausted. My assumption is that there is a lot of blow-back so they are restoring a few high profile names so they can say, "see, we aren't stopping science!". It is good this handful of people are back on the job, but I assume the NIH is like most other organizations -- the…
Also, if you're nearing retirement and you look at this mess, you're not coming back, there won't be anything to be done. Its a trap. They'll get these folks back, there will be nobody else to do the work and they'll come back and say "see, these people were useless, we were right in firing them".
>Its a trap.
Trust is efficient. Lack of trust is inefficient. If someone untrustworthy like Musk fired me and suddenly wanted a do-over, I'd counter with a completely selfish arrangement like a $500/hr contracting rate with some non-trivial amount due up front.
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#13https://archive.is/RkCst Color me dubious about "coding errors" when Musk and his lap DOGE-ies are involved.
Even though I wouldn't be surprised at all about the fact that anything Musk and his cronies put out is chock full of coding errors, it does seem like it's just a pathetically weak excuse.
Hey don't worry, they're going to rewrite all the SSA software next!
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#14Sounds super efficient.
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#15> “Even if they stopped now, a lot of damage has been done,” another NINDS investigator says. “I think it’s a sinking ship. I don’t mean my lab, I mean biomedical research.”
It already was, though. We lost about 2 decades of alzheimer's research and probably about 30 drug candidates, and that's just one subfield.
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#16Earlier quoted context omitted.
Also, if you're nearing retirement and you look at this mess, you're not coming back, there won't be anything to be done. Its a trap. They'll get these folks back, there will be nobody else to do the work and they'll come back and say "see, these people were useless, we were right in firing them".
>Its a trap. Trust is efficient. Lack of trust is inefficient. If someone untrustworthy like Musk fired me and suddenly wanted a do-over, I'd counter with a completely selfish arrangement like a $500/hr contracting rate with some non-trivial amount due up front.
Yep, exactly. I do that over far less. And otherwise, f off. People are way too nice to people screwing you over. Unlike we often see here, there are really good business owners who would (and do) sell all they have to keep all the staff through rough times. But those usually are (all I guess?) small businesses; I have the good fortune to contract (yes they even bend over backwards, both unconnected company owners, to keep their contractors) with 2 of them. And they pay well above market in the EU; American wages while they are from the EU. Most others will try to screw you and they call it 'it is not personal, it's just business'; while that's true, it rings hollow when you just did your stinking best. We are led to believe (mostly because of US tech in my case), that you need to work yourself to death while accepting everyone will throw you in a meat grinder whenever they wake up on the wrong side. Musk as poster child of this. But you make money! Sure, so especially for those, and especially in a pickle, our hourlies are bizarrely high and they still come back.
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#17I stg DOGE is going to rewrite the Social Security software stack and it's going to crash and burn on the first person whose last name is "Null"
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#18It’s wild how America is just complacent with the destruction of the federal government.
We see all of these red flags across the agencies yet there’s minimal uproar.
I have seen a few protests (50501, recently) but nothing that stops this wanton destruction.
- $6.6T sell off in market due to Orange administration trade war in just _2 days_
- USAID decimated
- US trade partners lost
- Federal agency head count losses across critical departments such as the DOJ
- Weaponized incompetence at the DoD under the Hegseth “leadership” with Signalgate being the latest blunder
- An unelected, billionaire Musk, with his supposed limited “special government employee” access and DOGE have been cutting public programs left and right. Public programs meant to be our safety nets
- Department of Education being undermined by putting incompetent leadership at the top position (a _professional wrestling promoter_) and cutting funding to critical programs for public schools. This is also purportedly to be “abolished”
- Then we have a non-medical professional, and health misinformation promoter at the head of HHS. The awful leadership during the measles outbreaks explains itself…
Wonder if this is what it was like in the months preceding the _2008 subprime mortage crisis_
Definitely not excited for this recession induced by absolute stupidity.
[1] https://www.wsj.com/finance/stocks/u-s-stock-futures-fall-fu...
Re: After 'coding error' triggers firings, top NIH scientists called back to work
#19Is there any proof that they're coding errors? A simpler explanation, to me at least, is that they first blanket fired people by dubious criteria, and are now using this as an excuse to backpedal when they realize they've cut something important.
It’s purely political.
“… fix the broken systems left to us by the Biden administration.…”
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#20I stg DOGE is going to rewrite the Social Security software stack and it's going to crash and burn on the first person whose last name is "Null"
Oh, little Bobby Tables. Such a trickster.