Headscale has been serving me well for half a year now. It is great, to the point I have no idea how I lived without a tailscale network before.
It is packaged in openbsd, and that package is the server I am using.
An open source, self-hosted implementation of the Tailscale control server
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Re: An open source, self-hosted implementation of the Tailscale control server
#12Keep in mind that for many use cases (mobile access, GUI on macOS), this relies on the official Tailscale clients keeping the ability to set the control server.
The moment the inevitable enshitification will start at Tailscale, this feature will go away.
I’m saying this as a currently super happy Tailscale customer who was burned multiple times in the past by other companies being sold or running out of VC money
Re: An open source, self-hosted implementation of the Tailscale control server
#13Every few months I come back to this repo to check if they finally got Tailnet lock running or if someone security audited them in the meanwhile. Unfortunately neither of these things seem to make any progress and thus, I’ve grown uncertain in how much I can trust this as a core part of my infrastructure.
The entire premise of Tailscale SaaS builds on creating tunnels around your firewalls, then enabling the user to police what is allowed to be routed through these tunnels in a intuitive and unified way.
Headscale seems to have nailed down the part of bypassing the firewall and doing fancy NAT-traversal, but can they also fulfill the second part by providing enough of their own security to make up for anything they just bypassed, or will they descend to just being a tool for exposing anything to the internet to fuck around with your local network admin? To me, not giving your Tailscale implementation any way for the user to understand or veto what the control server is instructing the clients to do while also not auditing your servers code at all sure seems daring…
Re: An open source, self-hosted implementation of the Tailscale control server
#14Keep in mind that for many use cases (mobile access, GUI on macOS), this relies on the official Tailscale clients keeping the ability to set the control server. The moment the inevitable enshitification will start at Tailscale, this feature will go away. I’m saying this as a currently super happy Tailscale customer who was burned multiple times in the past by other companies being sold or running out of VC money
arent most of the the tailscale clients open source aside from the gui portion of the non open source os's?
Re: An open source, self-hosted implementation of the Tailscale control server
#15Every few months I come back to this repo to check if they finally got Tailnet lock running or if someone security audited them in the meanwhile. Unfortunately neither of these things seem to make any progress and thus, I’ve grown uncertain in how much I can trust this as a core part of my infrastructure. The entire premise of Tailscale SaaS builds on creating tunnels around your firewalls, then enabling the user to…
One of the maintainers work for tailscale now.
Re: An open source, self-hosted implementation of the Tailscale control server
#16Every few months I come back to this repo to check if they finally got Tailnet lock running or if someone security audited them in the meanwhile. Unfortunately neither of these things seem to make any progress and thus, I’ve grown uncertain in how much I can trust this as a core part of my infrastructure. The entire premise of Tailscale SaaS builds on creating tunnels around your firewalls, then enabling the user to…
One of the maintainers work for tailscale now.
maintainer's employment != security audit
Re: An open source, self-hosted implementation of the Tailscale control server
#17Re: An open source, self-hosted implementation of the Tailscale control server
#18Every few months I come back to this repo to check if they finally got Tailnet lock running or if someone security audited them in the meanwhile. Unfortunately neither of these things seem to make any progress and thus, I’ve grown uncertain in how much I can trust this as a core part of my infrastructure. The entire premise of Tailscale SaaS builds on creating tunnels around your firewalls, then enabling the user to…
Re: An open source, self-hosted implementation of the Tailscale control server
#19Every few months I come back to this repo to check if they finally got Tailnet lock running or if someone security audited them in the meanwhile. Unfortunately neither of these things seem to make any progress and thus, I’ve grown uncertain in how much I can trust this as a core part of my infrastructure. The entire premise of Tailscale SaaS builds on creating tunnels around your firewalls, then enabling the user to…
> Headscale seems to have nailed down the part of bypassing the firewall and doing fancy NAT-traversal
Did they really roll-their-own for those functions? I thought this was just a control layer on top of Tailscale’s stock services on the backend, are they facilitating connections with novel methods? Apologies if I’m asking obvious questions, I use ZeroTier pretty regularly, but I am not too familiar with Tailscale.