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Coolify: Open-source and self-hostable Heroku / Netlify / Vercel alternative

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Re: Coolify: Open-source and self-hostable Heroku / Netlify / Vercel alternative

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I don't mean it as discouragement but, at least for me, I would choose Heroku or Netlify because I don't want to self host it. I want someone else to manage all those bits for me. It's good experience building the app though and good to have alternatives available.

I’m glad that the age of platform decay and VC backed companies that these OSS alternatives exist to counter this destructive trend of extraction based vendor lock in. Vercel, Netlify and Heroku will inevitably not exist in 10-20 years but Coolify will, humming along on a regular VPS.

Heroku has been around for ~17 years at this point. Why do you think it disappears in the next 10?

Re: Coolify: Open-source and self-hostable Heroku / Netlify / Vercel alternative

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I appreciate the caution - and although they're close in spelling, I'd wager coolify is recognized by the majority as adding the suffix 'ify' to 'cool' rather than the term you've highlighted.

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Re: Coolify: Open-source and self-hostable Heroku / Netlify / Vercel alternative

#14
post #4

I don't mean it as discouragement but, at least for me, I would choose Heroku or Netlify because I don't want to self host it. I want someone else to manage all those bits for me. It's good experience building the app though and good to have alternatives available.

I’m glad that the age of platform decay and VC backed companies that these OSS alternatives exist to counter this destructive trend of extraction based vendor lock in. Vercel, Netlify and Heroku will inevitably not exist in 10-20 years but Coolify will, humming along on a regular VPS.

That's great. I didn't mean any discouragement as much as to say, I would probably not promote its self hosting ability as much. Promote that it's open source and keep working on it because I am sure you'll learn a lot about the field space. If it comes down to it that Heroku, Netlify, Vercel, and all other PaaS companies are gone, I will most likely just do a VPS or server just for my app than launch my own PaaS.

tl;dr if I am looking for a PaaS, I don't care that it's self hostable. I don't want to host it, that's why I am looking.

Re: Coolify: Open-source and self-hostable Heroku / Netlify / Vercel alternative

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’m glad that the age of platform decay and VC backed companies that these OSS alternatives exist to counter this destructive trend of extraction based vendor lock in. Vercel, Netlify and Heroku will inevitably not exist in 10-20 years but Coolify will, humming along on a regular VPS.

Heroku has been around for ~17 years at this point. Why do you think it disappears in the next 10?

Because Salesforce decides it’s not profitable enough to be worth it, or they want to close Heroku off to Salesforce customers, or any number of other reasons

Re: Coolify: Open-source and self-hostable Heroku / Netlify / Vercel alternative

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’m glad that the age of platform decay and VC backed companies that these OSS alternatives exist to counter this destructive trend of extraction based vendor lock in. Vercel, Netlify and Heroku will inevitably not exist in 10-20 years but Coolify will, humming along on a regular VPS.

Heroku has been around for ~17 years at this point. Why do you think it disappears in the next 10?

I mean obviously we're not really privy to market share but I'd say they've had a pretty massive decline in say the past 5 years or so.

Re: Coolify: Open-source and self-hostable Heroku / Netlify / Vercel alternative

#18
post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’m glad that the age of platform decay and VC backed companies that these OSS alternatives exist to counter this destructive trend of extraction based vendor lock in. Vercel, Netlify and Heroku will inevitably not exist in 10-20 years but Coolify will, humming along on a regular VPS.

That's great. I didn't mean any discouragement as much as to say, I would probably not promote its self hosting ability as much. Promote that it's open source and keep working on it because I am sure you'll learn a lot about the field space. If it comes down to it that Heroku, Netlify, Vercel, and all other PaaS companies are gone, I will most likely just do a VPS or server just for my app than launch my own PaaS. tl…

The point is the UX is identical with Coolify on a cheap VPS compared to overpriced Heroku/Netlify/Vercel.

Just comparing exact performance and price and features.

A blank linux VPS has a different UI/UX.

Why does it seem like you're deliberately misunderstanding? Do you work for a platform?

Re: Coolify: Open-source and self-hostable Heroku / Netlify / Vercel alternative

#19
post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's great. I didn't mean any discouragement as much as to say, I would probably not promote its self hosting ability as much. Promote that it's open source and keep working on it because I am sure you'll learn a lot about the field space. If it comes down to it that Heroku, Netlify, Vercel, and all other PaaS companies are gone, I will most likely just do a VPS or server just for my app than launch my own PaaS. tl…

The point is the UX is identical with Coolify on a cheap VPS compared to overpriced Heroku/Netlify/Vercel. Just comparing exact performance and price and features. A blank linux VPS has a different UI/UX. Why does it seem like you're deliberately misunderstanding? Do you work for a platform?

I feel like you got lost in my example/rambling that I probably shouldn't have said like that.

If I am a user looking for some place to host my application, I do not care that one service can be self hosted. I have already made my decision that I am going to host it somewhere else, so I am not going self host the PaaS just to host my application myself.

It can still be self hostable, just put it in the developer documentation and not necessarily promoting it so much on the main page.

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