> Let's start with your details
OpenAI releasing new open model in coming months, seeks community feedback
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Re: OpenAI releasing new open model in coming months, seeks community feedback
#12Q: How open?
Can it be used commercially? Is the training protocol going to be open? Or just the weights released like Llama models?
Re: OpenAI releasing new open model in coming months, seeks community feedback
#13What would you like to see in an open-weight model from OpenAI? Explain what you would use it for See... that's kinda the idea behind an open model. I don't have to explain what I would use it for.
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#14Earlier quoted context omitted.
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I'm surprised they expect people to voluntarily undergo that interrogation, for their feedback to then be processed by some LLM.
If you're interested in the field, why wouldn't you answer the questionnaire? It costs you basically nothing while the upside is getting something that is potentially at least a tiny bit more useful to you than if you hadn't said anything?
Re: OpenAI releasing new open model in coming months, seeks community feedback
#15This definitely feels like a move made out of desperation, but I admit I'm curious to see what they release. It's fascinating that some of the best-funded startups of the 2020s are all rushing to commoditize their core technology as quickly as possible. They all seem to have the same business model as the Change Bank from SNL
Desperation? How so?
The cynical late-stage-capitalism argument for releasing an open source model is for PR/goodwill and hoping for the chance the model becomes a foundation model in the OSS community. But OpenAI definitely isn't operating around good PR and the chance of releasing a foundation model is unlikely given the competition.
Re: OpenAI releasing new open model in coming months, seeks community feedback
#16> Let's start with your details
Well obviously they will have thousands of applications from which they need to make a selection removing trolls, luddites, etc.
How would you do it without asking for some applicants' details?
Re: OpenAI releasing new open model in coming months, seeks community feedback
#17This definitely feels like a move made out of desperation, but I admit I'm curious to see what they release. It's fascinating that some of the best-funded startups of the 2020s are all rushing to commoditize their core technology as quickly as possible. They all seem to have the same business model as the Change Bank from SNL
Desperation? How so? The cynical late-stage-capitalism argument for releasing an open source model is for PR/goodwill and hoping for the chance the model becomes a foundation model in the OSS community. But OpenAI definitely isn't operating around good PR and the chance of releasing a foundation model is unlikely given the competition.
Orgs and individuals are chasing sentiment to cash out while valuations are inflated (there has been some expectation deflation, see Microsoft terming datacenter leases and the CoreWeave IPO fizzle), but open models are still welcome (democratization).
Re: OpenAI releasing new open model in coming months, seeks community feedback
#18Easy. A reasoning model with better performance than QWQ but at 21B (like Reka Flash 3) and good tooling call support. A model as “intelligent “ as Qwen2.5 but personality and creativity of Gemini (or Gemma at a minimum)
Re: OpenAI releasing new open model in coming months, seeks community feedback
#19OpenAI should release its frontier model as an open-weight model. There are already open-weight models that match OpenAI's best models (at the time of their release), so the idea that OpenAI would lose something by making its frontier models open-weight doesn't hold up. With an open-weight model, they would instantly kill any proprietary competitor, similar to what Google did to all its competitors with Android.
IMO, OpenAI should focus on tooling, infra, and setting standards for AI apps and profit from those. MCP is what "custom GPT" is supposed to be; OpenAI lost that battle, among many others.
Gopher started as a freely available protocol but later changed its licensing terms, requiring fees to be paid—similar to what OpenAI has done. We know how Gopher ended up: today, most people haven't even heard of it, despite its adoption at the beginning.
Re: OpenAI releasing new open model in coming months, seeks community feedback
#20Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm surprised they expect people to voluntarily undergo that interrogation, for their feedback to then be processed by some LLM.
If you're interested in the field, why wouldn't you answer the questionnaire? It costs you basically nothing while the upside is getting something that is potentially at least a tiny bit more useful to you than if you hadn't said anything?
It takes time and will likely be ignored.