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Dipping my toes in OpenBSD, in Amsterdam

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Re: Dipping my toes in OpenBSD, in Amsterdam

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Very nice read! This really resonated with me: > I would skim the documentation for the command to run, or the configuration to enter, only to get error messages in response. Then a period of frantic searching and trial and error would follow. Until I finally got it right. Once it worked, I reread the original documentation and saw that the answers were right there all along. Crystal clear. And yet somehow it did not…

Everyone is so used to garbage documentation, that they go googling instead, but OpenBSD docs are in fact very good.

Not that I disagree, but in this case that is really not the point of what I quoted.

The point is that often, before you reach some level of understanding, you can read the docs 5 times and not find the answers you are looking for, even though they are there! As soon as you reach the right level of understanding, then the docs are perfect!

Re: Dipping my toes in OpenBSD, in Amsterdam

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i didnt understand it until i stumbled on the bsd supp docs that openbsd couldnt be ****** to include. i dont have the sources, but v7 vol2 is close enough: https://s3.amazonaws.com/plan9-bell-labs/7thEdMan/bswv7.html vol2 contains fuller book like manuals and tutorials for complicated things like ed, C, filesystem, UNIX, etc. and should be your first introduction to UNIX/BSD, while the man(1) program (vol1) serves a…

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Re: Dipping my toes in OpenBSD, in Amsterdam

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i didnt understand it until i stumbled on the bsd supp docs that openbsd couldnt be ****** to include. i dont have the sources, but v7 vol2 is close enough: https://s3.amazonaws.com/plan9-bell-labs/7thEdMan/bswv7.html vol2 contains fuller book like manuals and tutorials for complicated things like ed, C, filesystem, UNIX, etc. and should be your first introduction to UNIX/BSD, while the man(1) program (vol1) serves a…

typo

    su root -c 'tar xfzCp src.tar.gz'
should be

    su root -c 'tar xfzCp src.tar.gz /usr/src'

Re: Dipping my toes in OpenBSD, in Amsterdam

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If you forget about the security focus that only started when Theo de Raadt got pwned by N3tBSD h4xx0rz, it is one of the best OS experiences the interwebs has to offer.

It has gotten a lot friendlier than it used to be too. It used to be that you had to build your own -CURRENT every week if you wanted to have something akin to an update.

Nowadays, you can run a binary update every six months and you even get binary patches for the errata in the interim. And if you need to patch your kernel you can grab it from GitHub.

I had a small board from 10 years ago I wanted to turn into a VPN and I just had to boot it, connect the serial adapter, download a new bsd.rd, and it was fresh and ready to go again.

It's sad that they had to let VAX and other legacy platforms go with the switch to clang, but, if some hardware has ever worked in OpenBSD, it is likely to keep working decades from now.

Sent from my OpenBSD M2 MacBook.

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