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I don't know whether water fluoridation is worthwhile. But I do know that various European countries have discontinued it. https://web.archive.org/web/20160303202219/http://www.appgaf...>
Utah becomes first US state to ban fluoride in its water
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Re: Utah becomes first US state to ban fluoride in its water
#12You can provide your own flouride (live in a house with well water).
You can provide lots of stuff yourself if the state abandons the whole idea of public health. Of course, be prepared for your taxes and/or insurance going up to cover your neighbors who don't pay for the same preventative care.
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#13Way past time. The link between fluoride ingestion by children and pregnant women to lower IQ in children has been known for years. It's incredible how the scientific community in the US is so ignorant of this fact. Also, dentists have no neuroscience background! So let's take recommendations by dentists to ingest a neurotoxin with deep deep skepticism, shall we?
As the saying goes, it's the dose that makes the poison.
Vitamin D is also quite toxic, would you celebrate banning that as well?
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#14And dentists rejoiced at their newfound source of income! /s This is so dumb, and based on psudoscience at best, and straight up falsities at worst. In 10 years we're going to hear about how cavities are so much higher in Utah than anywhere else.
I'm not following closely, but is this pseudoscience? https://hsph.harvard.edu/news/fluoride-childrens-health-gran... https://ntp.niehs.nih.gov/whatwestudy/assessments/noncancer/...
Those are based on countries with much higher levels of fluoride than the USA adds.
Follow up studies have found the levels in the USA to be perfectly safe and in fact beneficial since poor people don't get dental care like they do in other countries.
Re: Utah becomes first US state to ban fluoride in its water
#15> Republican state lawmaker Stephanie Gricius - who introduced the bill in the state legislature - has argued that there is research suggesting fluoride could have possible cognitive effects in children.
It's kind of amazing to say something like that then be so inconsistent on things that will have real outcomes that make life better for kids. They're all for cutting school support and social services.
Re: Utah becomes first US state to ban fluoride in its water
#16Note that while this may be first state to ban fluoride, it's not the first state to not have fluoride in the water. That would be Hawaii (effectively).
Re: Utah becomes first US state to ban fluoride in its water
#17Way past time. The link between fluoride ingestion by children and pregnant women to lower IQ in children has been known for years. It's incredible how the scientific community in the US is so ignorant of this fact. Also, dentists have no neuroscience background! So let's take recommendations by dentists to ingest a neurotoxin with deep deep skepticism, shall we?
> The link between fluoride ingestion by children and pregnant women to lower IQ in children has been known for years
Not at the levels it is found in water in the USA. Those studies were done in countries with much higher levels of fluoride.
Re: Utah becomes first US state to ban fluoride in its water
#18Hawaii does not add fluoride to their water. Utah may be the first to out-right ban it, but there are quite a few local communities and cities that opt-out of adding it to their drinking water.
https://chatgpt.com/share/67e8572d-c5f4-8000-9393-c2e894c922...
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Fluoridation of water isn't the best grounds for arguing the US is backwards, given that it has hitherto been an outlier in how much fluoridation is happening [0]. Most of the developed world doesn't come close to the reach that the US has.
[0] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_fluoridation_by_countr...
Re: Utah becomes first US state to ban fluoride in its water
#20And dentists rejoiced at their newfound source of income! /s This is so dumb, and based on psudoscience at best, and straight up falsities at worst. In 10 years we're going to hear about how cavities are so much higher in Utah than anywhere else.
I'm not following closely, but is this pseudoscience? https://hsph.harvard.edu/news/fluoride-childrens-health-gran... https://ntp.niehs.nih.gov/whatwestudy/assessments/noncancer/...
I didnt look too closely, but the concentration recommended by the FDA is much lower than many of the sample sets in that linked study. Some 10 times as much. One is a hundred times as much.
Not sure if that first link was to the Harvard summary intentionally but heres the actual study: https://ehp.niehs.nih.gov/doi/10.1289/ehp.1104912