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Re: OpenWrt Two Approval

#11

Post by neilv »

GL.iNet is a popular brand, though I can't find a Wikipedia page for it.

https://www.gl-inet.com/about-us/ says:

> GL Tech (HK) Ltd: #601, 5W, Hong Kong Science Park, N.T. Hong Kong

> GL Intelligence, Inc.: 10400 Eaton Place, Suite 215, Fairfax, VA 22030

I'm a little curious about this. One of the reasons that some people run OpenWrt is for improved security. In the general security space, a Shenzen company isn't the most usual choice of vendor for Western countries. Also, the company having the US subsidiary/office/unit based in Virginia, and with "intelligence" in the name, hits a somewhat odd note.

Re: OpenWrt Two Approval

#12

Post by pzo »

What I would want to have some company to make one device that would at the same time be:

1) router

2) smart tv (airplay, chromecast, miracast)

3) smart speaker

4) smart home gateway (matter)

5) wireless charging pad

6) private cloud (nextcloud)

7) private backup (removable nvm)

8) private vpn / dns / pihole / adguard

9) mini server

Everything in a nice package and preconfigure and ideally modular (upgradable ssd, wifi).

UmbrelOS [0] is interesting but its quite expensive and its only for home server (no router, no smart speaker, smart tv, wireless charging pad). Apple TV has a great hardware and cheap but so limited for 3rd party. Wish they made it modular that you could attach magnetic speaker, wireless charging pad and had some usb for attaching 4g modem.

[0] https://umbrel.com/

Re: OpenWrt Two Approval

#13

Post by reaperman »

usui wrote: post #7

Is there a reasonable scenario where enough people vote "no" here? It seems unlikely, so a nuanced discussion where pros and cons are considered seems more productive. Seems like a yes/no vote makes more sense if there is actual contention or disagreement among internal factions. If you vote no, you'll basically be seen as the stickler person without a good reason. 18 people are missing (abstained?), so could that be…

In a slightly different reality, most members might reasonably vote no if it was deemed too costly for the organization's budget, or if the champion of the project was seen as unreliable, or if there were genuine concerns with the chosen contractor. Some of these could change after a short bit -- a sudden funding source appears, a different leader of the project steps up, or they address concerns with the contractor bid.

Re: OpenWrt Two Approval

#14

Post by teleforce »

neilv wrote: post #11

GL.iNet is a popular brand, though I can't find a Wikipedia page for it. https://www.gl-inet.com/about-us/ says: > GL Tech (HK) Ltd: #601, 5W, Hong Kong Science Park, N.T. Hong Kong > GL Intelligence, Inc.: 10400 Eaton Place, Suite 215, Fairfax, VA 22030 I'm a little curious about this. One of the reasons that some people run OpenWrt is for improved security. In the general security space, a Shenzen company isn't the…

The existing OpenWrt One is running a version of Banana Pi, also a product by a Chinese company [1],[2],[3].

From their website, "Banana Pi open source hardware community is an open source hardware project led by Guangdong Bipai Technology, and supported by Taiwan Hon Hai Technology (Foxconn)."

[1] Banana Pi OpenWrt One:

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005007795779282.html

[2] Banana Pi website:

https://www.banana-pi.org/web/index.php

[3] Banana Pi:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banana_Pi

Re: OpenWrt Two Approval

#15

Post by teleforce »

pzo wrote: post #12

What I would want to have some company to make one device that would at the same time be: 1) router 2) smart tv (airplay, chromecast, miracast) 3) smart speaker 4) smart home gateway (matter) 5) wireless charging pad 6) private cloud (nextcloud) 7) private backup (removable nvm) 8) private vpn / dns / pihole / adguard 9) mini server Everything in a nice package and preconfigure and ideally modular (upgradable ssd, wi…

Please check Synology products, a Taiwanese company. They have affordable products and solutions that provide all your listed requirements and then some more [1],[2]. Not sure if they have one device or several devices integrate together to perform the functions you've listed, more likely the latter.

[1] Synology Products A - Z: Applications:

https://www.synology.com/en-global/products-a-z

[2] Synology:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synology

Re: OpenWrt Two Approval

#16

Post by simoncion »

jauntywundrkind wrote: post #9
teruakohatu wrote: post #3

I wonder why they are including a 5G port. There does not seem to be a lot of gear that uses it. An additional 1/2.5G or 10G SFP would make more sense.

There's 30$ usb-c adapters out now. Where-as 10Gbe is usually $130+. Yes there are very few switches with 5Gbe. But I'd be open to that changing!

> There's 30$ usb-c adapters out now. Where-as 10Gbe is usually $130+.

Sure, but if you include another SFP+ port, you can run that at 1, 2.5, 5, or 10gbit. Another SFP+ port gives you a BUNCH of options (including the "copper, fiber, or twinax?" option). A 5Gbit copper port locks you in to just that one configuration.

As for the expense of SFP+ modules, go check out the 10Gtek company. The optical ones are very inexpensive [0], and I've had eight of their optical SFP+ modules in my home networking hardware for many, many years with no problems whatsoever. I expect the copper ones to be just as reliable.

[0] And their copper ones are on the low side of average price

Re: OpenWrt Two Approval

#17

Post by petesergeant »

ksec wrote: post #2

> "Two" will (hopefully) be in the 250$ region What does that mean ?

OpenWRT "One" and "Two" are physical routers designed specifically to run OpenWRT. This is describing "Open WRT Two", a physical piece of hardware, that will have a price-tag, rather than some new software release of OpenWRT.

Re: OpenWrt Two Approval

#18

Post by simoncion »

teruakohatu wrote: post #3

I wonder why they are including a 5G port. There does not seem to be a lot of gear that uses it. An additional 1/2.5G or 10G SFP would make more sense.

I hope the reason is that they'd have to remove several ports to upgrade that hard-wired 5Gbit port to a 10Gbit SFP+ port. Otherwise, it's very, very silly what they've done.

Re: OpenWrt Two Approval

#19

Post by RestartKernel »

petesergeant wrote: post #17
ksec wrote: post #2

> "Two" will (hopefully) be in the 250$ region What does that mean ?

OpenWRT "One" and "Two" are physical routers designed specifically to run OpenWRT. This is describing "Open WRT Two", a physical piece of hardware, that will have a price-tag, rather than some new software release of OpenWRT.

This should be at the top, since it's not clear at all from the RFC.

Re: OpenWrt Two Approval

#20

Post by TechDebtDevin »

neilv wrote: post #11

GL.iNet is a popular brand, though I can't find a Wikipedia page for it. https://www.gl-inet.com/about-us/ says: > GL Tech (HK) Ltd: #601, 5W, Hong Kong Science Park, N.T. Hong Kong > GL Intelligence, Inc.: 10400 Eaton Place, Suite 215, Fairfax, VA 22030 I'm a little curious about this. One of the reasons that some people run OpenWrt is for improved security. In the general security space, a Shenzen company isn't the…

GL Intelligence is just their 'American Agency', or their legal representation in the United States since they are a foreign company. Probably an American consultant firm they fund. This is required. You can't use your Hong Kong lawyers here.

https://fcc.report/FCC-ID/2AFIW-XE300C4G/7058909.pdf

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