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The Gen X Career Meltdown

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Re: The Gen X Career Meltdown

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Am I the only one that finds these generation-related articles really stupid? Gen meltdown. There are stupid people in every generation. There are smart people in every generation. If the writer was in the second group, they would stop generalizing and sensationalizing.

A stupid person might genuinely write such an article.

A smart person might cynically write such an article, knowing the topic would draw eyeballs and thus money.

Re: The Gen X Career Meltdown

#12

Am I the only one that finds these generation-related articles really stupid? Gen meltdown. There are stupid people in every generation. There are smart people in every generation. If the writer was in the second group, they would stop generalizing and sensationalizing.

If that were true; why are recruiters going out of their way to avoid hiring Gen Z without at least 5 years' experience? Some generations are in a messier shape than others, in different ways. Even Gen Z managers describe their own generation as the worst.

Older millennial here. The "we're only hiring seniors" thing has was also true when I entered the job market. Nothing new about it.

Why hire a junior when the market is flooded with people with 5+ years of experience?

Re: The Gen X Career Meltdown

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Gen X here. This author found the marginally productive people who can't read the room and adjust. Us punk kids who photocopied their 'zines are doing just fine because we paid attention and moved on and then moved on again. And the kids say: "skill issue, get gud"

Same. I’ve had a career that has gone from working on Novell > Windows > Cisco > Linux > VMWare > AWS > Kubernetes > Terraform > … whatever’s next.

Moving out’s the way to move up.

Re: The Gen X Career Meltdown

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Born in 79 so I'm either X or millenial - don't really care. I'm nostalgic about the times when tech was sought out and less pervasive. This recent article[1] really made me nostalic about the "goold ole days". The "boring" days. Anyways, I feel less sorry for myself and more empathy for younger generations. Growing up has always been challenging, before school shootings, and online bullying.. Now you can't escape th…

Take this on-call rotation and shove it (scottsmitelli.com) | 180 points by mirawelner 1 day ago | 143 comments https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43498213

Re: The Gen X Career Meltdown

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Am I the only one that finds these generation-related articles really stupid? Gen meltdown. There are stupid people in every generation. There are smart people in every generation. If the writer was in the second group, they would stop generalizing and sensationalizing.

A stupid person might genuinely write such an article. A smart person might cynically write such an article, knowing the topic would draw eyeballs and thus money.

Ah so

authentic = stupid

manipulative = smart

Re: The Gen X Career Meltdown

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Wild. I've heard of the end of e.g. journalism for years, since Craigslist... but as a software developer I thought I'd be immune to these kinds of shifts. Never thought the (career) reaper would come for me, haha. I have some friends in Hollywood... they say there's nothing left, and not even a side-gig in Albuquerque left to pay the bills. Been looking for a job, but in this downturn there's nothing available. Afte…

I'm mid-30s and think about this all the time. I went from psych -> economics and after being exposed to SAS/Stata decided to go into data analysis and then engineering. SWE looked like the picture of success at the time. I think about tail risk a lot and have been saving diligently for security and hopes of reclaiming my time from work.

Re: The Gen X Career Meltdown

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Gen X here. This author found the marginally productive people who can't read the room and adjust. Us punk kids who photocopied their 'zines are doing just fine because we paid attention and moved on and then moved on again. And the kids say: "skill issue, get gud"

As much as I appreciate the spirit of your comment I don't think you're being entirely fair here. Professional journalists had the ground disappear beneath their feet with no obvious exit strategy. It was even worse for photographers. Sure some managed to tread water for a while by switching to digital workflows but demand for the trade evaporated. I mean, just in our local area something like 200 small businesses went bankrupt over the course of a decade and a half. Before digital you couldn't drive 5 miles in any direction from any point without passing a photography studio, film processing joint, or both. Now to the extend folks even get prints made there are self-serve kiosks in Walgreens. When the music stopped there weren't a whole lot of chairs left and being good with $50,000 worth of photography equipment doesn't really prepare one for any other career track.

Tech never had these kinds of issues because you could simply cross-train on the next related tech stack and keep working.

Re: The Gen X Career Meltdown

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

If that were true; why are recruiters going out of their way to avoid hiring Gen Z without at least 5 years' experience? Some generations are in a messier shape than others, in different ways. Even Gen Z managers describe their own generation as the worst.

Older millennial here. The "we're only hiring seniors" thing has was also true when I entered the job market. Nothing new about it. Why hire a junior when the market is flooded with people with 5+ years of experience?

Record-breakingly bad opinions by employers is new.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvCPjOxJClg

Re: The Gen X Career Meltdown

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Born in 79 so I'm either X or millenial - don't really care. I'm nostalgic about the times when tech was sought out and less pervasive. This recent article[1] really made me nostalic about the "goold ole days". The "boring" days. Anyways, I feel less sorry for myself and more empathy for younger generations. Growing up has always been challenging, before school shootings, and online bullying.. Now you can't escape th…

There's a cusp between them, birth years '78 to '82. We're the Xennials, also dubbed the Oregon Trail micro-generation. We're the ones who grew up playing that on the Apple IIs in the school computer labs, and the other hallmarks of that tech era like typing in programs from magazines, and then eventually we formed the BBS scene before the internet.

We have the best of both ways regarding technology. We use it and we're comfortable with it and can pivot careers with it, but we also remember a time before computers and so we're not chronically attached to and dependent on tech. We have the detached cynicism of Gen X, but it's tempered with the worldly connectedness of the millennials.

Re: The Gen X Career Meltdown

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Wild. I've heard of the end of e.g. journalism for years, since Craigslist... but as a software developer I thought I'd be immune to these kinds of shifts. Never thought the (career) reaper would come for me, haha. I have some friends in Hollywood... they say there's nothing left, and not even a side-gig in Albuquerque left to pay the bills. Been looking for a job, but in this downturn there's nothing available. Afte…

This absolutely has not been my experience. I'm on the cusp of Gen X, but I had to turn away requests to interview after I added #OpenToWork on LinkedIn. I ended up with four full loops in a single week, and a hard choice between three offers. I definitely shook my network to get internal referrals, but once recruiting knows you are a real person, most companies move quick.

Submitting resumes without a referral is useless, you gotta work your network.

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