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Not OK Cupid – A story of poor email address validation

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Re: Not OK Cupid – A story of poor email address validation

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OkCupid is a terrible service. It disassociates real people who don't pay, and encourages fraudulent scams such as pig butchering. Bots are ridiculously easy to spot. You can end up in an endless loop of the same rejects unless you start blocking them.

On the other hand, I met my wife there and my two children wouldn’t exist if not for it. That said, the OkCupid of today and that of 2011 when I used it are probably quite different.

Yeah from what I've heard it's nothing like it was in 2010-2014

Re: Not OK Cupid – A story of poor email address validation

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Companies that allowed others to create accounts with my email addresses: PayPal, Apple, Credit Karma, Walmart (I just forwarded the email to legal@ and they took care of that instance very quickly, kudos to that at least). Edit: Forgot to add TD Bank - I actually opened a case with the Office of the Comptroller of the Currency that regulates this bank. Companies that spammed me in the last 24 hours because they don'…

Add AT&T to your first list.

Re: Not OK Cupid – A story of poor email address validation

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post #7

OkCupid is a terrible service. It disassociates real people who don't pay, and encourages fraudulent scams such as pig butchering. Bots are ridiculously easy to spot. You can end up in an endless loop of the same rejects unless you start blocking them.

On the other hand, I met my wife there and my two children wouldn’t exist if not for it. That said, the OkCupid of today and that of 2011 when I used it are probably quite different.

Same, although for us it was 2015. But that is 10 years ago (noooo I hate getting old), and to your point I can imagine it changing a ton in that time.

Re: Not OK Cupid – A story of poor email address validation

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Just mark the emails spam and forget about them. If everyone blogged about every spam email they got we’d get articles every day about spam emails everyone got.

I do in Gmail, but half of them will never go in the spam folder such as from Credit Karma.

Re: Not OK Cupid – A story of poor email address validation

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Problem is, if you implement strict email verification, you lose users. Because that step of "please open your email and verify" is actually a big drop-off point in the funnel. No amount of "shaming" people over lax email validation is going to convince them to implement a change that loses them money.

Don't get me wrong, I hate it too. Every single day I have to block about a dozen new sender addresses for services that someone has signed up for under my email. Because my email address just so happens to be temporal at gmail.com (it was my teenage gamer tag), and it just happens that "temporal" means "temporary" in Spanish, so about half a billion humans think it's a great throw-away address.

Luckily I can very easily identify the emails that aren't meant for me, because they are in Spanish, which I do not speak. Still, I thought that after years of blocking a dozen senders a day, I'd have blocked just about everything... but no, they just keep coming. I've given up on clicking "unsubscribe" or trying to hijack accounts to shut them down, I just go straight to "block" now...

But yeah. I've been demanding that people validate email addresses for decades, and can assure you than nobody cares and they're not going to start.

The best you can hope for really is that they put a link in the email to disavow the account with one click. I've only seen a few companies do that but I really appreciate it!

Re: Not OK Cupid – A story of poor email address validation

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post #7

OkCupid is a terrible service. It disassociates real people who don't pay, and encourages fraudulent scams such as pig butchering. Bots are ridiculously easy to spot. You can end up in an endless loop of the same rejects unless you start blocking them.

On the other hand, I met my wife there and my two children wouldn’t exist if not for it. That said, the OkCupid of today and that of 2011 when I used it are probably quite different.

It probably started when they sold to The Match Group a while back.

I used it a little back in 2014, and again in 2021. The second time around, it was very different.

I don't know of any dating companies that focus on matching people versus optimizing for revenue.

Re: Not OK Cupid – A story of poor email address validation

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post #15

Problem is, if you implement strict email verification, you lose users. Because that step of "please open your email and verify" is actually a big drop-off point in the funnel. No amount of "shaming" people over lax email validation is going to convince them to implement a change that loses them money . Don't get me wrong, I hate it too. Every single day I have to block about a dozen new sender addresses for services…

> The best you can hope for really is that they put a link in the email to disavow the account with one click. I've only seen a few companies do that but I really appreciate it!

That's a great middle-ground, and I think I've only seen that once.

Re: Not OK Cupid – A story of poor email address validation

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Companies that allowed others to create accounts with my email addresses: PayPal, Apple, Credit Karma, Walmart (I just forwarded the email to legal@ and they took care of that instance very quickly, kudos to that at least). Edit: Forgot to add TD Bank - I actually opened a case with the Office of the Comptroller of the Currency that regulates this bank. Companies that spammed me in the last 24 hours because they don'…

Also Uber, I keep receiving mails from users who used my domain, on my catch all mail

Re: Not OK Cupid – A story of poor email address validation

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Just mark the emails spam and forget about them. If everyone blogged about every spam email they got we’d get articles every day about spam emails everyone got.

I do in Gmail, but half of them will never go in the spam folder such as from Credit Karma.

Had the same problem with Peacock despite constantly attempting to unsubscribe and mark spam. In the end I just created a filter rule to throw it in spam.

Re: Not OK Cupid – A story of poor email address validation

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post #15

Problem is, if you implement strict email verification, you lose users. Because that step of "please open your email and verify" is actually a big drop-off point in the funnel. No amount of "shaming" people over lax email validation is going to convince them to implement a change that loses them money . Don't get me wrong, I hate it too. Every single day I have to block about a dozen new sender addresses for services…

> The best you can hope for really is that they put a link in the email to disavow the account with one click. I've only seen a few companies do that but I really appreciate it! That's a great middle-ground, and I think I've only seen that once.

That’s not a middle ground at all that offloads the cost of your growth to unrelated parties who are potentially being defrauded. Typical tech ploy.
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