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Total lunar eclipse over Teide crater, Tenerife – a project with many obstacles

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Re: Total lunar eclipse over Teide crater, Tenerife – a project with many obstacles

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Post by solace_silence »

aa-jv wrote: post #7
madaxe_again wrote: post #3

I felt my blood pressure spike at the mention of the people with the headlamps - I do astrophotography, and having an hour long exposure ruined because someone sauntered over with their high beams on is a touch infuriating.

I think its more troubling to think that someones Very Important Thing™ might be being disturbed by someone elses More Important Thing™. Whining about flashlights ruining your shot is one thing - not having compassion for someone who might be searching the mountain for a lost colleague, or any one of a number of other possible scenarios, is another thing entirely. Its quite psychopathic to not at least consider that…

Aren't you assuming that the author didn't reach out?

Re: Total lunar eclipse over Teide crater, Tenerife – a project with many obstacles

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Post by aa-jv »

seabass-labrax wrote: post #9
aa-jv wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can't imagine any other scenario? Perhaps they were looking for a missing colleague? One would never know, for as long as hostility and antagonism is the reaction to assumptions made, instead of .. you know .. having empathy for someone out there on the mountain in the middle of the night, looking for something/someone ..

Sorry, but none of this makes any sense to me. First rare wildlife, now lost colleagues? Tenerife has a mountain rescue service with helicopters and off-roaders. Having empathy is great, but it still most likely that the availability of ultra-bright lamps is causing people to use them unnecessarily. There is an abundance of evidence that artificial light hurts natural ecosystems, not to mention inconveniencing astrop…

What does the word "perhaps" mean to you?

The example given was just an example - and in fact, an assumption cannot be made that the light-bearers were intentionally trying to interfere in a photo session.

It is entirely unreasonable to think that strangers on a mountain will account for a random photography project in their thinking. So the blame game doesn't make any sense whatsoever.

The onus of responsibility for having a clear shot, obviously lays with the photographer. Just because a photo is being taken, doesn't mean that others can't access the public space, too ..

Re: Total lunar eclipse over Teide crater, Tenerife – a project with many obstacles

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Post by aa-jv »

solace_silence wrote: post #11
aa-jv wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think its more troubling to think that someones Very Important Thing™ might be being disturbed by someone elses More Important Thing™. Whining about flashlights ruining your shot is one thing - not having compassion for someone who might be searching the mountain for a lost colleague, or any one of a number of other possible scenarios, is another thing entirely. Its quite psychopathic to not at least consider that…

Aren't you assuming that the author didn't reach out?

There's nothing in the article that indicates they reached out - there is plenty in the article to indicate that the assumption of entitlement to the mountain was being made, in spades.

Re: Total lunar eclipse over Teide crater, Tenerife – a project with many obstacles

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Post by Etheryte »

If you're ever in a similar pinch, any loyalty card, credit card or similar plastic will work wonders as a makeshift ice scraper. No need to put your hands through that pain, turn the car on to get some heat going and hold the card with both of your hands to support it as you scrape.

Re: Total lunar eclipse over Teide crater, Tenerife – a project with many obstacles

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Post by wat10000 »

aa-jv wrote: post #12
seabass-labrax wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sorry, but none of this makes any sense to me. First rare wildlife, now lost colleagues? Tenerife has a mountain rescue service with helicopters and off-roaders. Having empathy is great, but it still most likely that the availability of ultra-bright lamps is causing people to use them unnecessarily. There is an abundance of evidence that artificial light hurts natural ecosystems, not to mention inconveniencing astrop…

What does the word "perhaps" mean to you? The example given was just an example - and in fact, an assumption cannot be made that the light-bearers were intentionally trying to interfere in a photo session. It is entirely unreasonable to think that strangers on a mountain will account for a random photography project in their thinking. So the blame game doesn't make any sense whatsoever. The onus of responsibility for…

They're probably one of those people who tries to take a photo across a busy sidewalk and gets annoyed when people keep walking through the shot.

Re: Total lunar eclipse over Teide crater, Tenerife – a project with many obstacles

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Post by theoreticalmal »

madaxe_again wrote: post #3

I felt my blood pressure spike at the mention of the people with the headlamps - I do astrophotography, and having an hour long exposure ruined because someone sauntered over with their high beams on is a touch infuriating.

I haven’t done long exposure photography in a while, but I also really really don’t like very bright headlamps at night. Very dim, or red light lamps are usually all that’s needed

Re: Total lunar eclipse over Teide crater, Tenerife – a project with many obstacles

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Post by BurningFrog »

seabass-labrax wrote: post #5
jmkd wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It should be said that in no way is anyone at fault for walking on a mountain at night using a headlamp. The onus is on the photographer to plan ways to avoid this issue affecting their work, or hope for a bit of luck. A saunterer may be searching for rare wildlife or any of countless other important projects that must be shared with others on the mountain.

I don't really understand this argument. What rare wildlife would it be necessary to find at night, that wouldn't also be disturbed by bright lamps? If you were looking for nocturnal animals you'd surely want your lamps off, and for anything else you could just search after sunrise.

The simple, and rather obvious, answer is that you use lights at night to see where you're going!

There is nothing wrong with that in general. If people are doing light sensitive things near me I'll of course adapt, if practical.

Re: Total lunar eclipse over Teide crater, Tenerife – a project with many obstacles

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Post by fumeux_fume »

aa-jv wrote: post #7
madaxe_again wrote: post #3

I felt my blood pressure spike at the mention of the people with the headlamps - I do astrophotography, and having an hour long exposure ruined because someone sauntered over with their high beams on is a touch infuriating.

I think its more troubling to think that someones Very Important Thing™ might be being disturbed by someone elses More Important Thing™. Whining about flashlights ruining your shot is one thing - not having compassion for someone who might be searching the mountain for a lost colleague, or any one of a number of other possible scenarios, is another thing entirely. Its quite psychopathic to not at least consider that…

Very troubling to think the author did not even consider that those people were searching for their long lost colleague after reciveing mysterious signals coming from the Teide crater. All of which indicating an exact point in space and time where a portal would appear and contact could finally be made. Actually quite psychopathic they didn't consider this at all.
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