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London's Heathrow Airport announces complete shutdown due to power outage

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Re: London's Heathrow Airport announces complete shutdown due to power outage

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Seems like a national security issue if there’s a single point of failure a few miles away that can take down one of Europe’s largest airports and global air travel.

This was my first thought.

My second thought is, UK infra is crumbling so bad, this is really most likely just business as usual...

Re: London's Heathrow Airport announces complete shutdown due to power outage

#12

Seems like a national security issue if there’s a single point of failure a few miles away that can take down one of Europe’s largest airports and global air travel.

This crossed my mind. Was it an adversarial foreign nation state undertaking sabatgoe a la French train network on the opening day of the Olympics?

Re: London's Heathrow Airport announces complete shutdown due to power outage

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Seems like a national security issue if there’s a single point of failure a few miles away that can take down one of Europe’s largest airports and global air travel.

This was my first thought. My second thought is, UK infra is crumbling so bad, this is really most likely just business as usual...

It's all been privatized and they don't care about anything other than maintaing profits so of course we're seeing the effects now. It's also why every single water provider in the UK is dumping raw sewage into our rivers and when the government tries to make them fix it they cry about how that will eat into their profits and how it's unfair.

Re: London's Heathrow Airport announces complete shutdown due to power outage

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post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I doubt they would suspend flights for that. Heathrow is used by people from all over South England, not just London, so a good proportion of customers come by car. Not to mention the people doing transits. Also TFL has a stock of buses which they use if a rail line goes down.

The Piccadilly line isn't noted as suspended, presumably it has its own electricity feed, so there are even still trains you could get.

Also it's not like Heathrow is on an island, in the worst case you could get everyone out by buses.

Re: London's Heathrow Airport announces complete shutdown due to power outage

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Seems like a national security issue if there’s a single point of failure a few miles away that can take down one of Europe’s largest airports and global air travel.

Few people actually include necessary infrastructure into their threat model and almost no one is willing to pay the cost of building effective redundancy into the system. I could probably shut down any airport in the world with a few late-night firebombs tossed into the right substation.

And no, it is not a national security issue. There are three other airports in the London region, plus RAF Norholt and RAF Kenly inside the M25 ring.

Re: London's Heathrow Airport announces complete shutdown due to power outage

#18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This was my first thought. My second thought is, UK infra is crumbling so bad, this is really most likely just business as usual...

It's all been privatized and they don't care about anything other than maintaing profits so of course we're seeing the effects now. It's also why every single water provider in the UK is dumping raw sewage into our rivers and when the government tries to make them fix it they cry about how that will eat into their profits and how it's unfair.

Getting bailed out by the government because you ran it into the ground is the plan when you buy one of these assets.

Re: London's Heathrow Airport announces complete shutdown due to power outage

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

This was my first thought. My second thought is, UK infra is crumbling so bad, this is really most likely just business as usual...

It's all been privatized and they don't care about anything other than maintaing profits so of course we're seeing the effects now. It's also why every single water provider in the UK is dumping raw sewage into our rivers and when the government tries to make them fix it they cry about how that will eat into their profits and how it's unfair.

Nope...

The UK electricity grid is nationalised - it's run by the National Energy System Operator (NESO).

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