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Amazon plans to lay off 14,000 managerial positions to save $3.5B yearly

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Re: Amazon plans to lay off 14,000 managerial positions to save $3.5B yearly

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So they finally figured out most managers are not just useless, but literally a drag to the company and progress?

The managers are just following the (fairly absurd imo), amazon internal processes for the most part. If the processes don't change, there are just going to be a bunch of overloaded managers. The current processes, culture, and 'principles'/dogmas are inefficient, contradictory and toxic af.

Re: Amazon plans to lay off 14,000 managerial positions to save $3.5B yearly

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This is old news and refers to the 15% figure that was announced last year (more than 6 months ago!) and for which the "layoffs" are already completed. Overall, nothing at all happened, managers looked after their own kind and the worst that happened for some was having to go back to IC positions. The article is most likely AI generated since it says this was announced "last month" and the article is from March, but…

How do the cost savings work then?

That's a made up figure from the journalist. They estimated that managers each earn between 200-350K and came to that number.

Re: Amazon plans to lay off 14,000 managerial positions to save $3.5B yearly

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I imagine one thread of the logic is like dang, AI is only producing mediocre work this year. What can we replace where mediocrity is acceptable... How about a role whose primary function is interhuman language.. where we can fallback on the humans involved (engineers, c levels) naturally catching and correcting mistakes?

Re: Amazon plans to lay off 14,000 managerial positions to save $3.5B yearly

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So they finally figured out most managers are not just useless, but literally a drag to the company and progress?

No now just senior managers are supposed to pickup the slack and drag the company behind on there own. and also program managers & useless product managers. jokes apart, long ago when I was there, once somebody did the internal org site scraping and found out in our org there were almost 6 workers (status givers) to 1 status takers. and sr. engineers are supposed to 'manage themselves', so really full of political BS…

Don't forget principals. Most of them do nothing the whole day and are compensated to create BS projects that go nowhere.

Re: Amazon plans to lay off 14,000 managerial positions to save $3.5B yearly

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So they finally figured out most managers are not just useless, but literally a drag to the company and progress?

In my experience, the worst of them are lodged in there tighter than trichinella larvae.

Yeah because the good ones already left the shitshow to get a job somewhere better. Because they can.
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