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Honestly, I think you’re going to run into UPL problems, and that residential renters typically have no power to negotiate lease terms.
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Don't shoo the messenger.
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#12No information about who owns this company. Given that it is very likely run by, in effect, landlords, I would be extremely suspicious of any advice it would give me as a tenant.
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#13Any time an AI product is advertised with something like "Legal Research Agents", a shiver goes up my spine.
I see the testimonials (though, I don't put much faith in "Jane Doe" and "Mike Smith" testimonials), however I'm pretty sure in my area anyone who attempts to negotiate (especially based on an AI-built argument) will be told to pound sand.
It's not a great market for renters here. Even blatantly illegal clauses are openly advertised all the time.
I could maybe see a use case for checking a current lease (for illegal clauses and such), rather than when trying to start a lease.
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#15You'll get a lot of haters from the petite bourgeoisie tech landlord crowd here but this is a good idea. The more tools to help renters negotiate against the countless predatory landlords the better. Even better would be ways to report or put their malfeasance on public record. $9 is too expensive though.
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> If my renter pulled this stunt on me, I'd show him the door
What’s the stunt? If they send you an AI markup, sure, that’s obnoxious if they didn’t do research to substantiate the suggested edits. But if they point out a clause that is illegal in your jurisdiction, that strikes me as a win-win.
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#18Any time an AI product is advertised with something like "Legal Research Agents", a shiver goes up my spine. I see the testimonials (though, I don't put much faith in "Jane Doe" and "Mike Smith" testimonials), however I'm pretty sure in my area anyone who attempts to negotiate (especially based on an AI-built argument) will be told to pound sand. It's not a great market for renters here. Even blatantly illegal clause…
> Any time an AI product is advertised with something like "Legal Research Agents"
In most cases a more-accurate label would be "Emotional-support Bullshitter", because:
1. Since nobody on the user's side really knows if a provided fact is true or a rationale is legally coherent, that makes it a kind of "bullshit".
2. It's main benefit is to make the human feels more confident and safe in negotiations, being able to foist responsibility onto their digital accomplice, it supports them emotionally.
3. It sounds like "emotional-support animal", and this is amusing to me while alluding to another kind of misbehavior.
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#19Neat idea, I wish there was some sort of demo or cases study to read through though - I really get turned off by these product billboard sites that are basically just funnel users into a CRM, or into marketing emails / video chats.
I just want to see what your product can do, not hear you tell me about it.
(I say this even though the company I’m working for relies on exactly these means to acquire new customers.)
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#20No information about who owns this company. Given that it is very likely run by, in effect, landlords, I would be extremely suspicious of any advice it would give me as a tenant.
> Given that it is very likely run by, in effect, landlords
You’re correct in being sceptical of services that ask you to upload sensitive documents. But the specific allegation seems unsubstantiated in this case.
You pay for the product. The privacy policy and terms of use are readable and reasonable. And they both have someone’s contact information at the bottom. No obvious red flags.