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uv downloads overtake Poetry for Wagtail users

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Re: uv downloads overtake Poetry for Wagtail users

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I recently switched to uv, and I cannot praise it enough. With uv, the Python ecosystem finally feels mature and polished rather than like a collection of brittle hacks. Kudos to the uv developers for creating such an amazing piece of software!

What about using https://github.com/RustPython/RustPython also?

Re: uv downloads overtake Poetry for Wagtail users

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post #11
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I recently switched to uv, and I cannot praise it enough. With uv, the Python ecosystem finally feels mature and polished rather than like a collection of brittle hacks. Kudos to the uv developers for creating such an amazing piece of software!

What about using https://github.com/RustPython/RustPython also?

Unlike uv this tool is unlikely to solve problems for the average Python user and most likely will create new ones.

Re: uv downloads overtake Poetry for Wagtail users

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It's the integrated python version management which sold me. Took a huge chunk of complexity out of bootstrapping projects which I was otherwise handling myself.

This is the one thing that took a while for me to get to grips with. I tend to use `asdf` for my python version management, which I want to continue to use since I use it for most other languages. It'd be nice if we could have a shim for `uv` that allows it to play nice with `asdf` (there is an `asdf-uv` but seems to be about installing different versions of `uv` when instead I want to install different versions of p…

I can't see any reason really to keep using asdf for python when a better alternative now exists, unless you just don't want to learn the new syntax?

Re: uv downloads overtake Poetry for Wagtail users

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Well, seems like 100% what’s going to happen (for the majority of Wagtail users at least) if the current trend continues. I’m not sure if that’s a good thing to be frank. But we’ll have to adjust regardless.

As a semi casual user of python that had to battle w/ dependency management recently, can you elaborate on why that would not be a good thing ? I thought about switching our project to uv but could not find the time necessary

You may be overestimating the amount of time it takes to switch to uv.

Re: uv downloads overtake Poetry for Wagtail users

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I recently switched to uv, and I cannot praise it enough. With uv, the Python ecosystem finally feels mature and polished rather than like a collection of brittle hacks. Kudos to the uv developers for creating such an amazing piece of software!

Yeah, switched to writing python professionally ~4 years ago, and been low key hating the ecosystem. From a java and javascript background, it's mostly been npm/mvn install and it "just works". With python, there's always someone being onboarded that can't get it to work. So many small issues. Have to have the correct version per project, then have to get the venv running. And then installing it needs to build stuff because there's no wheel, so need to set up a complete c++ and rust toolchain etc., just to pull a small project and run it.

uv doesn't solve all this, but it's reduced the amount of ways things can go wrong by a lot. And it being fast means that the feedback-loop is much quicker.

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