Apple is propping up the NASDAQ and S&P500. Apple's iPhone revenue alone generates more than all of Microsoft's various business units combined. I'd say that's a pretty good way of losing its shine.
Is Apple Losing Its Shine After Steve Jobs?
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#12"After all, during his too-brief, once-in-a-century career, he radically disrupted at least seven industries: personal computing, desktop software, music, mobile phones, publishing, tablet computers, and Hollywood animation"
Completely OT, but I thought it was interesting to note that the time difference between the first mobile phone and the first commercially successful smartphone (1973-2007) and the time difference between the invention of the telegraph and telephone (1832-1876) were approximately the same. Apparently awesomeness takes 40 years to bloom.
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#13People have been saying that Apple was going down, in my experience, since 1981 with the introduction of the IBM PC. Seriously, in the 1980s it was IBM, Commodore, Tandy, et al. In the 1990s it was Windows. In the past decade every two-bit media player was called an iPod killer. Every phone ripping off the iPhone is called an iPhone killer. Every tablet is called an iPad killer. And of course the myth has been spread…
Your argument would be more useful if you listed what people are currently cribbing about and then debunked it.
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#14Apple has done some things that I don't think are wise since the death of Steve Jobs - the "new iPad" branding, the new Apple ads, the potential new form factors developer have to design for.
However, they also made some decisions that I thought were stupid when Steve Jobs was there, such as releasing the iPad (which I thought would fail for sure). I'm just waiting to see how everything shakes out before I pass judgment. I've been dead wrong about Apple before, and I don't really see any reason I'll be correct with my opinions now.
Re: Is Apple Losing Its Shine After Steve Jobs?
#15People have been saying that Apple was going down, in my experience, since 1981 with the introduction of the IBM PC. Seriously, in the 1980s it was IBM, Commodore, Tandy, et al. In the 1990s it was Windows. In the past decade every two-bit media player was called an iPod killer. Every phone ripping off the iPhone is called an iPhone killer. Every tablet is called an iPad killer. And of course the myth has been spread…
Your argument would be more useful if you listed what people are currently cribbing about and then debunked it.
Why don't you enumerate the complaints do he can refute each? It will be like HN teamwork. :)
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#16I decided not to read the article when I saw that Time was accusing the 22nd largest company in the world [1] of being in decline. Time lost its shine with the decline of print media.
http://www.forbes.com/global2000/#p_3_s_a0_All%20industries_...
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#17People have been saying that Apple was going down, in my experience, since 1981 with the introduction of the IBM PC. Seriously, in the 1980s it was IBM, Commodore, Tandy, et al. In the 1990s it was Windows. In the past decade every two-bit media player was called an iPod killer. Every phone ripping off the iPhone is called an iPhone killer. Every tablet is called an iPad killer. And of course the myth has been spread…
Either you're not serious or you need to calm down.
Re: Is Apple Losing Its Shine After Steve Jobs?
#18"After all, during his too-brief, once-in-a-century career, he radically disrupted at least seven industries: personal computing, desktop software, music, mobile phones, publishing, tablet computers, and Hollywood animation" Completely OT, but I thought it was interesting to note that the time difference between the first mobile phone and the first commercially successful smartphone (1973-2007) and the time differenc…
Maybe it's just the 20 year patents?
Re: Is Apple Losing Its Shine After Steve Jobs?
#19I decided not to read the article when I saw that Time was accusing the 22nd largest company in the world [1] of being in decline. Time lost its shine with the decline of print media. http://www.forbes.com/global2000/#p_3_s_a0_All%20industries_...
Along with every single other print publication, not just Time. Misguided statement there, buddy.
Re: Is Apple Losing Its Shine After Steve Jobs?
#20People have been saying that Apple was going down, in my experience, since 1981 with the introduction of the IBM PC. Seriously, in the 1980s it was IBM, Commodore, Tandy, et al. In the 1990s it was Windows. In the past decade every two-bit media player was called an iPod killer. Every phone ripping off the iPhone is called an iPhone killer. Every tablet is called an iPad killer. And of course the myth has been spread…
Steve Jobs suggests that Apple didn't innovate while he wasn't there (http://www.macrumors.com/2011/09/19/steve-jobs-apple-almost-...).
The question is then does Apple, without Jobs, have the visionaries and the management team supporting those visionaries to pioneer very specific markets to continue earning billions in the future. I'd guess that over the next few years a Google Glass-style device is ready for the market and some sort of car-friendly voice-controlled heads-up-display computing device is capable of commanding billions, but outside of that it's going to be about apps and information... and although Apple has a huge presence today and lots of cash they've got a very hard positition to hold as Google, Microsoft, Amazon, etc. are fighting for the same consumers who are paying a premium for Apple products.
My dad got a 1st gen iPad and really liked it. He just got a Nexus 7 and ditched his iPad. He doesn't think it's amazing or anything, but he can fit it in his pocket, buy books from Amazon directly, it was only $200 and it's lighter and easier to read on. At some point Apple's differentiation shifts from being innovative devices to being "sexy" design and a great interface... sure that sells, but it doesn't sell at nearly the same level as truly innovative devices like the iPod, iPhone, or iPad can. Apple's doing well today, but maintaining this level of success if going to be extremely difficult.