Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

Apple has locked me in the same cage Microsoft's built for Windows 10 users

theregister.com

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

11–20 of 369 posts

Re: Apple has locked me in the same cage Microsoft's built for Windows 10 users

#11

Post by Closi »

BoredPositron wrote: post #5
fsflover wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It's not ready, why apple does it like this we don't know What is not ready? A tablet today can surely run a full OS without restrictions [0]. Apple doesn't want it, and it's worth talking about it. [0] https://puri.sm/products/librem-11/

That’s not really the discussion. We know that iPadOS is shit. On windows and Linux there are form factors that fit the users use case perfectly but they don’t want these products. Instead of adapting to those system they decide to rant about apple not doing what they want… yet we only see these posts from apple users that talk like there is no alternative.

Windows OS is bad for a tablet compared to iPadOS.

iPadOS is bad as a laptop compared to Windows.

Nobody yet has been able to fully square the two different paradigms.

Re: Apple has locked me in the same cage Microsoft's built for Windows 10 users

#12

Post by mixmastamyk »

Closi wrote: post #11
BoredPositron wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That’s not really the discussion. We know that iPadOS is shit. On windows and Linux there are form factors that fit the users use case perfectly but they don’t want these products. Instead of adapting to those system they decide to rant about apple not doing what they want… yet we only see these posts from apple users that talk like there is no alternative.

Windows OS is bad for a tablet compared to iPadOS. iPadOS is bad as a laptop compared to Windows. Nobody yet has been able to fully square the two different paradigms.

I recommend the starlite if you don’t depend primarily on battery power. Personally won’t be going back to Apple’s golden handcuffs, and would never consider the user-hostile MS.

Re: Apple has locked me in the same cage Microsoft's built for Windows 10 users

#14

Post by SOLAR_FIELDS »

nkotov wrote: post #13

I have two iPads Pros. I still can't figure out where I can use them. I realize that they are overpowered entertainment devices for me now.

I see visual artists and musicians having some decent use cases for them. Everyone I know who has an iPad that isn’t one of these professions is usually using it as an expensive portable streaming device

Re: Apple has locked me in the same cage Microsoft's built for Windows 10 users

#15

Post by widforss »

SOLAR_FIELDS wrote: post #14
nkotov wrote: post #13

I have two iPads Pros. I still can't figure out where I can use them. I realize that they are overpowered entertainment devices for me now.

I see visual artists and musicians having some decent use cases for them. Everyone I know who has an iPad that isn’t one of these professions is usually using it as an expensive portable streaming device

I think pastors and politicians have quite some use of them as well.

Re: Apple has locked me in the same cage Microsoft's built for Windows 10 users

#16

Post by archontes »

axpvms wrote: post #8

>Will we still have just three operating systems to choose from - of which only two are really suitable for a worker's desktop? That's going to go down poorly with the Linux enthusiasts

I'm not even a Linux "enthusiast". I simply find Windows to be a terrible product and Linux to be a better product. I simply use the least terrible option.

Re: Apple has locked me in the same cage Microsoft's built for Windows 10 users

#17

Post by _mlbt »

nkotov wrote: post #13

I have two iPads Pros. I still can't figure out where I can use them. I realize that they are overpowered entertainment devices for me now.

I use mine all the time for taking notes, keeping up with my calendar, and just for staying organized in general. The Apple Pencil is so smooth and natural.

Re: Apple has locked me in the same cage Microsoft's built for Windows 10 users

#18

Post by vinceguidry »

fsflover wrote: post #4
BoredPositron wrote: post #3

Yet, another I've bought a tablet but should have bought a laptop to replace my old laptop "article". It's not ready, why apple does it like this we don't know... but pretending that we don't know it despite talking about it for 10 or more years is disingenuous and fails the debate at hand.

> It's not ready, why apple does it like this we don't know What is not ready? A tablet today can surely run a full OS without restrictions [0]. Apple doesn't want it, and it's worth talking about it. [0] https://puri.sm/products/librem-11/

I have one, and switched to a Framework in a Cooler Master case, I carry around a portable screen to connect it to. Reason is power. Even if you get enough RAM, the CPU will peg at the slightest provocation.

Re: Apple has locked me in the same cage Microsoft's built for Windows 10 users

#19

Post by jmull »

I guess this kind of article always gets attention, but they always seem so stupid to me.

A thing exists that I don't want.

I could:

(1) ignore the thing; or (2) complain that the thing isn't something I want

(1) seems so obviously the right thing to do. This goes double when the thing you do want does, in fact, exist.

But, no, the internet opts for (2). I guess complaining just feels good, even when it's about something that has zero actual effect on you (or on anyone, even).

Re: Apple has locked me in the same cage Microsoft's built for Windows 10 users

#20

Post by dangus »

jmull wrote: post #19

I guess this kind of article always gets attention, but they always seem so stupid to me. A thing exists that I don't want. I could: (1) ignore the thing; or (2) complain that the thing isn't something I want (1) seems so obviously the right thing to do. This goes double when the thing you do want does, in fact, exist . But, no, the internet opts for (2). I guess complaining just feels good, even when it's about some…

The author literally just bought the wrong device for their needs.

Probably 95% of people who own computers do not need root access and should not have it, possibly ever. The iPad is a great device for all the people who need what it offers. It's an amazing graphical tablet, it's a cheap way to watch movies and play games, and it's an amazing system to use while standing without a desk (e.g., for retail and outdoor situations). All of these use cases have nothing to do with gaining root access.

Heck, I don't even think most of my development tasks on a real desktop computer involve elevating into root privileges. I'd sure like the ability to but if it was taken away from me I'm not sure it would affect me all that much.

"I don't consider any system without root access to be a real computer. So anyway, I decided to buy a Roku streaming box as my main computer and it sucks! What's wrong with the world today!?"

Post reply on HN