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Mac Apps with Retina-Display Support

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Re: Mac Apps with Retina-Display Support

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I was under the impression that games could run at 2880x1800 natively, but this only shows a few games. Can anyone confirm whether other games are supported?

The only game I've played so far on my new rMBP was Civ V, which supports Retina in that its buttons and controls are blocky and double size and the map itself is rendered at full resolution.

Re: Mac Apps with Retina-Display Support

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I just got a rMBP yesterday. It's surprising/disappointing to me how gross non-retina apps and websites look. Almost worth switching back.. almost. Retina apps are so buttery smooth. I really hope there is wider adoption over the next couple of months.

I actually submitted a bug to the chrome team about this. Both Apple and Google have screwed up their scaling algorithm, they're using bicubic scaling instead of nearest neighbor scaling and it make everything as you say look "gross"

You can see the issue here http://craftymind.com/factory/retinascaling/retina.html

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post #8

I just got a rMBP yesterday. It's surprising/disappointing to me how gross non-retina apps and websites look. Almost worth switching back.. almost. Retina apps are so buttery smooth. I really hope there is wider adoption over the next couple of months.

Gross compared to retina-enabled apps or gross compared to a non-retina MBP?

Think standard definition television programming on a modern HDTV. It's pretty much like that.

Re: Mac Apps with Retina-Display Support

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Note: only Chrome Canary and Chrome Dev Channel have Retina support.

Chrome 21 has Retina support. (It went stable a couple days ago.)

It's pretty slow compared to Mountain Lion Safari. Probably comparable to Lion Safari though.

Re: Mac Apps with Retina-Display Support

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post #9

I just got a rMBP yesterday. It's surprising/disappointing to me how gross non-retina apps and websites look. Almost worth switching back.. almost. Retina apps are so buttery smooth. I really hope there is wider adoption over the next couple of months.

I just got one last night. I am overall very impressed, although I agree that it really is jarring to hit an app that's not designed for Retina. Have you tried running the native resolution? It gives you tons of real estate and avoids the retina compatibility problem, assuming your vision is good enough :) You can't get the native resolution from system preferences, but there are some utilities that make it pretty co…

I just tried it- everything is comically small :) Do you run at 2880x1800?

I've settled on 1680x1050 for browsing and jump up to 1920x1200 for coding.

Re: Mac Apps with Retina-Display Support

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post #8

I just got a rMBP yesterday. It's surprising/disappointing to me how gross non-retina apps and websites look. Almost worth switching back.. almost. Retina apps are so buttery smooth. I really hope there is wider adoption over the next couple of months.

Gross compared to retina-enabled apps or gross compared to a non-retina MBP?

Gross compared to a non-retina MBP. The anti-aliasing tricks that many apps use for their text rendering are broken in HiDPI mode. Use SwitchResX to change the resolution from 1440 x 900 HiDPI to regular 1440 x 900 mode and there is a noticeable improvement. I'm often forced to switch (to 1680 x 1050 so it's like the old high res MBP) because shockingly Apple's iWork and iBook Author aren't updated for the retina display.

Re: Mac Apps with Retina-Display Support

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Chrome 21 has Retina support. (It went stable a couple days ago.)

It's pretty slow compared to Mountain Lion Safari. Probably comparable to Lion Safari though.

The scrolling does feel a bit choppy, but less so than Lion Safari IMO.

Re: Mac Apps with Retina-Display Support

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I just got a rMBP yesterday. It's surprising/disappointing to me how gross non-retina apps and websites look. Almost worth switching back.. almost. Retina apps are so buttery smooth. I really hope there is wider adoption over the next couple of months.

I actually submitted a bug to the chrome team about this. Both Apple and Google have screwed up their scaling algorithm, they're using bicubic scaling instead of nearest neighbor scaling and it make everything as you say look "gross" You can see the issue here http://craftymind.com/factory/retinascaling/retina.html

Why is nearest neighbor scaling better? It would make images look like on a non-retina display, but is that the best use of the additional pixels? Nearest neighbor scaling is usually considered one of the worse scaling algorithms, unless you're looking at pixel art.

Re: Mac Apps with Retina-Display Support

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post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I actually submitted a bug to the chrome team about this. Both Apple and Google have screwed up their scaling algorithm, they're using bicubic scaling instead of nearest neighbor scaling and it make everything as you say look "gross" You can see the issue here http://craftymind.com/factory/retinascaling/retina.html

Why is nearest neighbor scaling better? It would make images look like on a non-retina display, but is that the best use of the additional pixels? Nearest neighbor scaling is usually considered one of the worse scaling algorithms, unless you're looking at pixel art.

Why go to the trouble of exactly doubling linear pixel density if you aren't even going to use nearest neighbor?
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